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Adobe Speedgrade: Unreal playback.

Andrew PC Smith

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Dear Adobe,

Whatever you did here, I want to see it go into Premiere and After Effects. Speedgrade really lives up to it's name.

I'll admit, I was a bit skeptical when Adobe was getting into video color correction. But unlike other competitors' first attempts, Adobe got this one right the first time. I get smoother R3D playback *with looks applied* than any other program... even Redcine-X Pro. Without conversion, I can playback at 100%, see exactly how it's going to look, with rarely a dropped frame. Truly amazing.
 
Man, adobe f-in rules. It will also be interesting to see the workflow for the 4k RAW files from the c500 this fall and how it compares to R3D's...
 
Your system specs please @ Andrew
 
Indeed. SpeedGrade's performance is truly incredible.

Something I wanted to share - got hold of a HP ENVY Sleekbook 6z powered by AMD A10-4655M earlier this week. This is an ultraportable that is about 0.75" thin and should cost about $700 in the US when it launches there.

This little laptop can grade 1080 footage without a discrete GPU with SpeedGrade CS6 Trial.
Yes, you can now grade Full HD real-time on a budget ultraportable.

(PS: Doesn't work well on Intel ultrabooks though.)

As an aside - AMD has showed off tablets powered by A-Series APUs running Windows 8 at Computex 2012. Think about that - real-time grading on a tablet by the end of the year.
ASUS has shown tablet transformers with Core i7 and NVIDIA GPUs. Let's see where that takes us... But this is all a bit off-topic.
 
Kwan, here's my iMac 27" specs.

Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4

No doubt would be even better with an nVidia card.
 
Andrew PC Smith said:
No doubt would be even better with an nVidia card.
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That assumption is usually made because AMD don't support CUDA. In this case, neither does SpeedGrade. In fact, it doesn't use traditional compute acceleration, rather using the GPU's shaders directly through OpenGL, which is the secret to its unrivaled performance. This also levels the playing field between NVIDIA and AMD.

By my tests, AMD Radeon HD 7970 is the fastest graphics card for SpeedGrade (till FirePro W9000 ships anyway...). It outperforms a similarly priced OCed GTX 670 substantially (and would a more expensive GTX 680 as well). That said, both are fast enough for real-time 5K grading (CPU debayer will be the bottleneck) and GTX gets you the GPU acceleration in Premiere Pro, so GTX 680 is the overall CS6 pick. On the mobile front, HD 7970M and GTX 680M are incredibly fast GPUs and offer performance on par with GTX 580. (Yes, the full blown desktop GPU that just a couple of months was a champion)
 
What are the best tutorials for Speedgrade? Would be great if FXPHD were to offer a FastForward class for Speedgrade...
 
I love CS6 - and very much disrespect BlackMagic for destroying the markets they enter and stabbing their own paying customers in the back - kind of the Walmart of the production world - but really, how is this better than Resolve Lite? Why bother?
 
Rob Ruffo said:
I love CS6 - and very much disrespect BlackMagic for destroying the markets they enter and stabbing their own paying customers in the back - kind of the Walmart of the production world - but really, how is this better than Resolve Lite? Why bother?
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"...destroying markets..." Why do you think so?? I see Adobe & BlackMagic successfully bringing CC to the desktop lowering the barriers for talented artists and making advanst CC a fundamental part of todays postproduction.

This is good news!

What's expensive in color grading today isn't the licenece for MAC OSX or Windows and the licence for the CC software itself.

Whats expesnive is a good grading cinema - color managed monitoring - good quality panels - experienced artists and a good service for the clients...

And at the end that will make the difference between a laptop with a CC software licenced on it and a grading facility.

Exiting times for color graders today - it's no longer that "they have a XXX system installed"...
 
Rob Ruffo said:
I love CS6 - and very much disrespect BlackMagic for destroying the markets they enter and stabbing their own paying customers in the back - kind of the Walmart of the production world - but really, how is this better than Resolve Lite? Why bother?
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Why do you think Black Magic has destroyed the market? It's maybe much more lively than before.
They didn't kill Resolve, they made it better, and they probably will make it better again with the next upgrade.
I don't know why you said they stab their paying customers in the back? Because DaVinci went from 200K to 1K?
They weren't Black Magic's customers before they did the acquisition, right?
The color correction industry was getting democratized anyhow with Apple's acquisition of Color, and if they didn't do it, anyone else would have.

You could also say that RED Digital Cinema 'destroyed the market' when they suddenly released a 17.5k 4K Digital Cinema Camera. It's called disrupting the market. Sometimes it needs that.

Every change has it's own challenges. One of the main challenges used to to get access to professional material.
Now it's more of a challenge to rise above the thousands of others people that have access to the same tools.
 
Rob Ruffo said:
how is this better than Resolve Lite? Why bother?
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"Better" is a term relative to the context. The more complex the context is, the more specific factors of comparison are required.

In this example, the answer may depend on:

a) UI logic preference
b) expressive logic preference
c) workflow requirements
d) targeted outcome with regards to its path
 
Andrew PC Smith said:
Kwan, here's my iMac 27" specs.

Processor 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
Memory 16 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2048 MB
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.4

No doubt would be even better with an nVidia card.
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Cheers Andrew that's what I'm currently cutting on too. There were a few people unhappy with SG performance and I was really looking forward to trying it out. SO really appreciate your post. Speaking of AE and PP though, if you haven't sent in a feature request to support the 6970 please do. And then the performance improvement we see with AE and PP should be equally if not more exciting.

Best
Lliam
 
Props to Lin for his participation on RedUser. I understand that R3D workflows are seen as too esoteric to justify resource allotment for many vendors but Adobe and their new pal SpeedGrade have stepped up. Credit where credit is due.

Cheers - #19
 
It looks to me though Speed grade just stepped up a real big step in stereoscopic workflow and interoperability with the rest of the Adobe suite.

Whats the optimal hardware set up for Red stereoscopic grading for a Mac Pro ?
 
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