Which IR filter?

[Rob Ruffo]

The new Schneider IRNDs are M.I.A. at all retailers, and I know they were highly recommended on Epic.

Anybody have other suggestions for ND 1.2 and above?

 

[Scott Crawley]

I don't usually quote myself but here goes:

I just spoke to the engineer at Schneider who designs their filters and he told me they hope to be out of backorder by Cine Gear Expo time in May.

He also tells me that Platinum IRND grads are on the drawing board, hopefully to be in available this time next year.

 

[Rob Ruffo]

Thanks Scott! However, that doesn't solve my problem this week. Any this-week solutions?

 

[Shane Kelly]

I'd say wait on the irnds I just picked up a 1.5 and it works great. In the interim get a tiffin hot mirror and use regular nd's.

 

[Mike Halper]

I picked up a full set of Formatts. Appear to have less coloration than the Schneiders.

 

[Rob Castiglione]

I agree concerning the Formatts.

 

[Rob Ruffo]

Interesting. Thanks guys! Do they reject as much/enough IR at high levels (1.5, 1.8)? Are they super-reflective (the Panchros were crazy for this) causing double-reflections?

 

[Mike Halper]

IR filtration is just as good as the Schneider Platinums, just less coloration of the image. Much more neutral. Haven't had any reflection issues.

 

[Rob Macey]

I have a set of Tiffen 4x5.65 IRND's. They look perfect. 1.5-2.1

 

[Aaron Bernakevitch]

This is a great blog by Ryan

http://gettingelemental.blogspot.ca/2011/11/ir-nd-filtration-epic.html

 

[Tom Hanmer]

Is it worth getting the Formatt ND filters with hot mirror built in. Any advice would be great as they are alot more expensive than the regular NDs

 

[Pierce Cook]

Mike are you saying the Formatt NDs *are* good for the Epic? I recall seeing some tests done where the IR was clearer than on the S Platinums.

I love my Formatt set, not wanting to change right now if it's not critical. The IRND 1.2, also.

 

[Jean Déraps]

Aren't the Schneider Platinums new IR filters? I'm asking this relative to the 'coloration' that some say they see....

The Platinums seem to be rather neutral, no?

 

[Akos Nyoszoli]

These 77mm Tiffen IRNDs seem like a bargain, does anyone have experience with them, especially 1.5 and above?

http://www.filmtools.com/tiffen-ww-irnd-filter-77mm.html

 

[Satsuki Murashige]

These 77mm Tiffen IRNDs seem like a bargain, does anyone have experience with them, especially 1.5 and above?

http://www.filmtools.com/tiffen-ww-irnd-filter-77mm.html

The Tiffen white water IR NDs .3 - 1.2 are great. You may need an additional IR cut filter for 1.5 and above with certain fabrics. The Schneider IR 750 works well.

 

[Pasha Patriki]

We very recently did a pretty extensive test comparing Shcneider Platinum vs. Schneider "Tru-Cut IR" vs. Tiffen IRND vs. Tiffen T1 vs. Rosco IR.
We tested every combination we could get our hands on from the local rental houses in Toronto.
I would like at this point to thank PS Productions Services Toronto and Image Gear Inc for providing the filters and facilities for testing.

I will make a nice table in the coming days and will post the results here.
The test was done using Epic-X camera and Red Pro Primes.

 

[Rob Ruffo]

WOW That sounds like something I want to see Pasha!

Please e-mail me any early findings!

 

[Lliam Worthington]

I have Tiffen's also. However, I remember in Phil Hollands tests he posted and the Format was clearly outshining Schneider and he was extremely happy and surprised.

 

[Alex Carr]

I didnt see the Hot Mirror 680 tested here, Thats the one Ive found to keep the most consistent color without going green above 1.2

 

[Brian F Kobylarz]

Interesting. Thanks guys! Do they reject as much/enough IR at high levels (1.5, 1.8)? Are they super-reflective (the Panchros were crazy for this) causing double-reflections?

The only way I know of to get double reflections is when the mirrored side of the filter is not the outermost surface.
Any IR or HM needs to be the first surface the light hits - any other filters behind it.
Best reason never to stack multiple IR's

If anyone has a different experience, please share