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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

16 core/32 thread/64GB RAM Mac setup, but not fully working yet.

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Well, I got the new system built today, but the drivers aren't fully working yet.

Still, check this out. 16 real cores, 32 threads, 64GB RAM. (EVENTUALLY coming soon to Apple, or not).

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Edit Update: CineBench CPU test is 24.5 in Win7.

Problem is, the latest Lion kernel is not made for this chipset yet. But everything is extremely fast in Windows 7.

This is the most recent set up with 128GB RAM and RAID test.

Get a Red Rocket if you need it.

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Which motherboard did you decide on?

I've got a couple SuperMicro X9DAi boards on order. waiting....
 
Hey Jeff. Yup, same board. X9DAi. This is running dual E5-2690's. Lion loaded like a charm, but driver issues. If I had the patience to keep trying drivers, I'm sure it would work.

I'm only using a Quadro 1800 card, but I'll try running some benchmarks. Let me know if you have any favorites. (windows 7 for now).
 
I found out tonight that my 2010 Mac Pro 12 core only supports 64GB of RAM. Tried 96GB and the fan would kick on full speed after running low stress work. Would only shut down if I put the thing to Sleep. Did the SMC reset and even took it to the Mac Store (worthless).

Also surprised that 3 SSD 6G OWC drives in RAID 0 off the main docks run at 540mbs while the external G-Speed 24TB with Atto board runs at 800mbs in RAID 6. Seems that the SSD's have some kind of compression going on that slows them down.

Waiting for a BT Red Rocket this week. Thing plays back at 1/4 now. Could be happy with that but looking at transcoding speed as well.

BTW: Jeff Kilgroe is THE MAN!!

Would pay admission to see his workspace
 
Josh Beadle said:
I found out tonight that my 2010 Mac Pro 12 core only supports 64GB of RAM. Tried 96GB and the fan would kick on full speed after running low stress work. Would only shut down if I put the thing to Sleep. Did the SMC reset and even took it to the Mac Store (worthless).
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Interesting... Did you get the RAM from OWC? If so, talk to them about it. Have you rotated modules around to make sure you don't have a bad one?

Also surprised that 3 SSD 6G OWC drives in RAID 0 off the main docks run at 540mbs while the external G-Speed 24TB with Atto board runs at 800mbs in RAID 6. Seems that the SSD's have some kind of compression going on that slows them down.
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They do, as all SandForce chipset based SSDs do, use on the fly compression. It's great for the right kinds of files. But for incompressible files, such as H264, ZIP, R3D, JPG, etc.. it doesn't help. And those advertised speeds that seem so amazing on the SSDs will fall to half or even a third of what they claim when you transfer those files. Especially large ones like R3D clips where you can easily have 100's of GB worth!

Waiting for a BT Red Rocket this week. Thing plays back at 1/4 now. Could be happy with that but looking at transcoding speed as well.
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Rocket will help the transcodes for sure. Playback at higher resolutions also helps, but you'll find that anything over half is kinda unnecessary unless you're spot-checking for noise/grain or other artifacts. On most systems, RC-X still struggles even with the Rocket at half res playback or better because the GUI interface can bottleneck with scaling and LUT application. They also don't use a whole lot of RAM for cacheing of what the Rocket processes ahead on playback and that can get real annoying at times.

BTW: Jeff Kilgroe is THE MAN!!

Would pay admission to see his workspace
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Hehehe.... You would want your money back. ;)
 
@Jeff
Yup, OWC RAM. I'll try rotating it tomorrow - worked after removing 2 x 16GB chips so left it at that. Really, 64GB is plenty since, as you say, RCX doesn't seem to utilize all that much.

What is the speed % diff between having 2 chips in each dock vs 3? Heard (probably from you) that best results had from installing RAM in 3 out of 4 slots. Got 2 x 16GB in each dock now. Seems speedy.
 
So far so good. Got it completely stable with all the drivers except for the Intel i350 ethernet. I do however use the Apple USB ethernet and it works. Audio is next. Lion updated fully as well.

So far zero crashes.

Once I connect the raid, I'll do an RCX test.


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Even with the fastest CPU's, and 1,300MB/s raid reads, it still can't do full res playback at full speed (does full res at 12fps), but it does 1/2 res at 20-22 fps speed (sometimes 24).

Conclusion is, if you need a Red Rocket, you should buy one :)
 
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Joseph,
Thanks for the info. Very en-lighting.
You need something that can decode JPEG2000 on-the-fly in hardware, which the RED Rocket does.
Even the best GPUs can't seem to handle this heavy chore. Intel CPUs also seem to choke with 5K R3Ds.
I'm not sure if there's an alternative JPEG2000 card, so the Rocket is probably your best bet for accelerating R3Ds and getting them to play/edit at 5K Full-res with good frame-rates.
 
Jose: I have to download and try Resolve. Haven't used it before. I just mess around, so I don't have any real footage to grade.

Eric: I actually got a solid 15-16fps in full res. I changed it from a quadro 1700 to quadro 1800 and it went up a few frames. Maybe a better card and I'll get close to full res. Maybe not.
 
while your at it can you try full rez playback in a few NLE programs? thanks
 
Joseph S. said:
So far so good. Got it completely stable with all the drivers except for the Intel i350 ethernet. I do however use the Apple USB ethernet and it works. Audio is next. Lion updated fully as well.

So far zero crashes.

Once I connect the raid, I'll do an RCX test.


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Joseph...
WOWO ;) :scared:
Very nice setup
For the network there are solutions ora.Non there are drivers. You can recompile the kernel using the kernel http://www.opensource.apple.com/ Apple's open source, but would become complicated.
I am very curious to see how it handles this pretty pci Supermicro's motherboard, can you save me a dump with IOREGistryexplorer?
http://www.osx86.net/view/93-ioregistryexplorer.html

I thank you, and congratulations again for the Beast;)

One more question you set 5.1 in the SMBIOS? try changing this parameter is important to enable the speedstep. Maybe changing it gives you a little more power.

Luigi
 
Luigi, I know you're the master here of the hackintosh machines. I really appreciate your kind words.

I'll try the bios change. Supermicro actually sent me a new bios that isn't released yet, which fixes a few speedstep issues. Haven't upgraded the bios yet as it's installing Final Cut.

As far as kernel compiling, I've done it in Linux, but I don't think I have the skills to learn it on this. It's probably similar. I'm using the Apple USB network adapter for now.

I'll keep you guys posted on my next tests.

Joe
 
Joseph S. said:
Luigi, I know you're the master here of the hackintosh machines. I really appreciate your kind words.

I'll try the bios change. Supermicro actually sent me a new bios that isn't released yet, which fixes a few speedstep issues. Haven't upgraded the bios yet as it's installing Final Cut.

As far as kernel compiling, I've done it in Linux, but I don't think I have the skills to learn it on this. It's probably similar. I'm using the Apple USB network adapter for now.

I'll keep you guys posted on my next tests.

Joe
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thanks, but it's just a hobby.
Now the KING of all is her.
We think they're crazy, you have the best MAC PRO "Hackintosh" available on the market.
A round of applause even from the InsanelyMac team.
The nice thing is that the machines are more powerful forum of REDUSER, as always I like to repeat that here there are people who want to change and move on and experiment. And there are super competent people. Jeff Kilgroe I consider the best, when one needs some information he is ready for them, a show, and has much experience, I follow a lot on this forum.
Jose Lomena knows many tricks on Hackintosh, I like it very fast and precise.
Sen Subhadip a bible of information, always surprises me.
Many many others, in any situational in this forum all give a hand.

Do you follow 'in this forum on your advance, maybe do some tests to see where so Davinci is the limit of this machine;)
GOOOOd luck friend;)

thanks
Luigi
 
I was finally able to get full res playback at 24 FPS. I have to wait for it to cache. But it loads a 60 second 5K R3D in RAM, and plays back and scrubs in realtime. I guess that's normal for anyone though, so nothing special.

The Cinebench score in win7 was 24.5 for the CPU test.
 
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