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Wooden Camera Order

Arnold F.

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In case anyone would like to do some extreme extrapolation to guestimate their timeline, my Wooden Camera order consisting of the three components necessary to mount an Anton Bauer battery, easy stick, and top handle, placed 1/27/12, is now shipping. I believe it was all the battery stuff that caused the delay.

And no, you may not use the name Extreme Extrapolation® for your reality show. It's taken. That it cost over $1K for a few pieces of milled metal and molded plastic is the subject of another show, also with Extreme in the name.
 
Chalk that up to Lemo and the shortage of 1B connectors...I suppose you could add Red to the list of culprits by virtue of shipping a ton of cameras requiring that connector.

When I got my epic, days before leaving to shoot a feature overseas, I sent Ryan @ WC an email about an expedited order fairly late on a Thursday evening, and not only did I hear back from him within the hour, but the order was processed and paid for that same evening and shipped out the next morning for a Saturday delivery. I guess that's the other Extreme...

In the end, I hope you like his products well enough to forgive the delay...
 
That it cost over $1K for a few pieces of milled metal and molded plastic is the subject of another show, also with Extreme in the name.
So why don't you stand there and CNC mill it yourself?

I always find amusing that people buy all the DSLR stuff, which is IMO a lot of "crap". Don't want to mention names here but since I bought my RED ONE back in the days I got introduced to the manufacturers of the lightweight studio gear and I'm amazed of how badly designed it often is. Over complicated and poorly designed.

Problem is that it's the market that decides the price. If you expect to sell in 100's of thousands then the pricing is totally different to when the market is 1000's. That the "cinema" camera industry is growing is also showing in the prices. You should have seen it only 6 years ago - HUGE DIFFERENCE.

There's a lot of transition people with the Scarlets and they come from the other side than to us "cine" guys. It's interesting how the melting pot is seeing things from their pow's.

Personally I'm looking at the "cheap" stuff from the DSLR market and the "high price range" from the cine side - and now there's a mid range for the new needs in this business.

BUT unless you start milling away yourself don't expect the prices to drop until the market is well over 100's of thousands of sales on the products. Although manufacturing costs are shrinking thanks to new technology it's still not where you seem to "feel" it should be.

My apologies if I read this post wrong and you were trying to joke about something I didn't get LOL.
 
Your apology is accepted, Fredrik. We all have bad days and act out here. I've done it myself.

I'm not sure if I'm "cine" or not. It's a new expression/classification to me so you have me at a disadvantage. I've worked in film and television on big budget studio pictures and a few independent films on both coasts since about '83. Perhaps that makes me "cine," although I doubt I'll start using the word; it sounds a little to much like "indie," which is always used for the wrong reason. I have no doubt you're far more accomplished than I am so I look forward to learning from you, and appreciate all the wisdom, both in film and in the area of economies of scale, you bring to this forum.

I have always complained and/or joked about having to pay a lot for things I don't want to cost so much. I probably won't stop. Have a terrific weekend! :)


So why don't you stand there and CNC mill it yourself?

I always find amusing that people buy all the DSLR stuff, which is IMO a lot of "crap". Don't want to mention names here but since I bought my RED ONE back in the days I got introduced to the manufacturers of the lightweight studio gear and I'm amazed of how badly designed it often is. Over complicated and poorly designed.

Problem is that it's the market that decides the price. If you expect to sell in 100's of thousands then the pricing is totally different to when the market is 1000's. That the "cinema" camera industry is growing is also showing in the prices. You should have seen it only 6 years ago - HUGE DIFFERENCE.

There's a lot of transition people with the Scarlets and they come from the other side than to us "cine" guys. It's interesting how the melting pot is seeing things from their pow's.

Personally I'm looking at the "cheap" stuff from the DSLR market and the "high price range" from the cine side - and now there's a mid range for the new needs in this business.

BUT unless you start milling away yourself don't expect the prices to drop until the market is well over 100's of thousands of sales on the products. Although manufacturing costs are shrinking thanks to new technology it's still not where you seem to "feel" it should be.

My apologies if I read this post wrong and you were trying to joke about something I didn't get LOL.
 
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