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4k PRO RES... Real time in full res!!... WOW!!!!

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I may get somebody in trouble here, but just watched a 4K PRO RES demo on a 4k Projector and 4k OLED monitor...
Running smoothly through a (beta update) of FCP-X and some tricky video card... !!!

Because I was a bit sceptical, I made some files from my laptop from RCX from my own footage in REDLOGFILM and gave it to them.. and graded it also in this FCP-X... all in real time.
one word WOW!!
The images were even better again than what they had showed me.

It's hard to blow me away now days... Ive seen many demo's... but I have to say, this little (secret) demo certainly opened my eyes. The images were so real and deep that it looked like i was looking at real life...

Even thought I have no interest in FCP X - (well had no interest) all of a sudden I see light at the end of the tunnel.

Im not allowed to tell you anymore than this.. I could get shot.
 
Mark Toia said:
I may get somebody in trouble here, but just watched a 4K PRO RES demo on a 4k Projector and 4k OLED monitor...
Running smoothly through a (beta update) of FCP-X... !!!

Because I was a bit sceptical, I made some files from my laptop from RCX from my own footage in REDLOGFILM and gave it to them.. and graded it also in this FCP-X... all in real time.
one word WOW!!
The images were even better again than what they had showed me.

It's hard to blow me away now days... Ive seen many demo's... but I have to say, this little (secret) demo certainly opened my eyes. The images were so real and deep that it looked like i was looking at real life...

Even thought I have no interest in FCP X - (well had no interest) all of a sudden I see light at the end of the tunnel.

Im not allowed to tell you anymore than this.. I could get shot.
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That's actually very interesting. Apple had pimped the 4K abilities of FCPX and this is the first I've heard of it living up to it's promise. I assume this is without any additional hardware support?
 
Nathan VanderByl said:
That's actually very interesting. Apple had pimped the 4K abilities of FCPX and this is the first I've heard of it living up to it's promise. I assume this is without any additional hardware support?
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You took out the part that mentions the tricky video card.
 
Mark Toia said:
I may get somebody in trouble here, but just watched a 4K PRO RES demo on a 4k Projector and 4k OLED monitor...
Running smoothly through a (beta update) of FCP-X and some tricky video card... !!!

Because I was a bit sceptical, I made some files from my laptop from RCX from my own footage in REDLOGFILM and gave it to them.. and graded it also in this FCP-X... all in real time.
one word WOW!!
The images were even better again than what they had showed me.

It's hard to blow me away now days... Ive seen many demo's... but I have to say, this little (secret) demo certainly opened my eyes. The images were so real and deep that it looked like i was looking at real life...

Even thought I have no interest in FCP X - (well had no interest) all of a sudden I see light at the end of the tunnel.

Im not allowed to tell you anymore than this.. I could get shot.
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Gabriele Turchi said:
is this secret related to FCPX system or the 4K displays ?

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Cant say to much, but it was playing out of FCP -X PRO RES 4k via a video card in unmarked box independent of the mac tower... (hush hush).. which went to directly to the 4K projector and the 4k Monitor at the same time.
 
Jason Diamond said:
It wouldn't transcode in RT without a Rocket tho yes?

Just rastered files?
Jason
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Thats was the sad bit. No REAL TIME TRANSCODING of the R3D's.. :( .

It was all 4k PRO RES only... Transcoding of the 4k material was done via RCX.

But once again.. WOW!!! it looked amazing. I working on a 2k edit and it looks soft now. :( but 24 hours ago it looked pin sharp!

Like a 2k projection and a true 4k projection... Something to be seen to believed.

Anyway.. real time 4k PRORES lives!!!! - and Im going to be a happy camper when that is finally released!
 
LOL

That's probably Jims Bedroom quote!

Mark Toia said:
Thats was the sad bit. No REAL TIME TRANSCODING of the R3D's.. :( .

It was all 4k PRO RES only... Transcoding of the 4k material was done via RCX.

But once again.. WOW!!! it looked amazing. I working on a 2k edit and it looks soft now. :( but 24 hours ago it looked pin sharp!
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Mark Toia said:
Thats was the sad bit. No REAL TIME TRANSCODING of the R3D's.. :( .

It was all 4k PRO RES only... Transcoding of the 4k material was done via RCX.
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I'm probably going to get bashed for this but lets just say that the ALEXA upgrades the front block with a new 4K sensor (and replaces the SxS module with a new faster form of media) and records LOG to a 4K PRO RES what really would be would be a far superior benefit for shooting RAW? I mean if 4K PRO RES looks as good as you say it is it seems to me that shooting RAW is only going to add an extra step that in my opinion seems like overkill.

However at the moment I completely understand because what else is there!
 
Mark Toia said:
Cant say to much, but it was playing out of FCP -X PRO RES 4k via a video card in unmarked box independent of the mac tower... (hush hush).. which went to directly to the 4K projector and the 4k Monitor at the same time.
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Depending on how it is getting passed through the Mac Pro, the thought of a Thunderbolt connection via a MacBook Pro is pretty exciting! Hopefully someone can share some more details about this in the future on this forum. When you are able to, I'm sure we'd like to hear more from you, Mark...
 
The SONY F65 workflow will be 4K in FCP X
Create proxy media
Switch to FULL RES after the EDIT, render and output.

By Creating Prores with EPIC/RED IMAGES the workflow will be exactly the same as above.

IF/WHEN there is an r3d solution in FCP-X it will be even better to have access to all of the r3d because the Color board is very powerful in FCP X. If they ever introduce a tracker it will give resolve a serious run for it's money. It might look simple but it is very , very powerful.

People shit on it beecause they have too much invested in "big rooms" but pixel for pixel it kicks ass.

Trust me.

David
 
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Very good guess Sanjin. BMD has been a big supporter of FCP X out of the gate and will provide 4K solutions. I am sure AJA will be soon to follow (as they now have a desktop mode for FCP X.

It handles metadata better than any other NLE (yes better than AVID) and going forward that is going to be more and more important in post environments.

We already know that Resolve has very slow database function as it comes from an AB tape based kind of workflow, but I am sure they are working on imporving that.

Look out.

David
 
Mark, could you be talking about the new external Red Rocket card housed in a Sonnet casing?? I know I probably won't get it out of you but I thought it was worth a try!
 
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