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Epic & Avid

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any chance to get red epic footage in avid? it doesn´t work here, only native red one footage.
 
It's something that should be coming in the next version... IBC is gonna be a nice show this year for a lot of companies.

As of now you just need to transcode in RC-X or app of your choice to DNx/ALE

Jason
 
Any updates? And what exactly is the issue with EPIC and AVID? It has been a while since doing a red project and now have one starting, shooting with EPIC. Final deliverable is 1280x720p for Web.

Michael P...any advice on the current workflow?

Avid MC v5.5.1-Mac

Thanks.
 
The next version of the Media Composer will have the latest RED SDK allowing the Epic footage to be supported (bot not HDRx). For now, as Jason stated, transcode dailies via REDCINE X. You can choose to offline, then re-render online HD files in REDCINE, or transcode to your "finishing" resolution up front. How many hours of dailies are you looking at? You can check DNxHD storage needs with this online calculator: http://www.avid.com/static/resources/flash/storage_calc_widget.swf

I would work in 1080, then create the 720p as an output.


Michael
 
Thanks Michael.

We probably will have approx. 2-3 hrs of footage. Our preferred workflow is use the finishing resolution up front. There is no time for up-rez.

Why 1080 instead of 720? This segment is part of a program consisting of other 720p segments (approx 2min ea), so we would like to keep it all the same...3 editors cutting packages that are combined into one half hour program...and all sharing GFX elements. Only 1 seg is show via Red. Are there issues with choosing 720p/5994-145 as the target transcode? Does REDCINE X support that?

I will try to download REDCINE X today and explore. Shoot is next week.

Thanks

Phil
 
If you are working at your finished resolution of 720p, then encode to 720p to match your other elements. If you were doing offline/online type of workflow I avoid 720p as the timecode adjustments are not made from 24 to 30.

Michael
 
IBC has come and gone. Any idea when we Epic comes to Avid? Coming from Final Cut Pro and looking for a new home...
 
IBC has come and gone. Any idea when we Epic comes to Avid? Coming from Final Cut Pro and looking for a new home...

Q4 2011 is my prediction - along with Media Composer 6...

64 bit, unlimited resolutions (4K, 28K said a slide), DNxHD 444, 7.1 surround, full stereo 3D effects, Blackmagic, Matrox, AJA support, new interface... that is a heck of a lot of stuff to bug-test. My suspicion is that they have rolled the Epic stuff into all of the above and are just testing the heck out of it right now.

I think their resources are too limited to do Epic AMA integration with MC 5.5 - especially when they are no longer developing on the old 32-bit architecture? Instead of splitting bug-testing between 5.5 32-bit 1080p version with old mostly-closed video engine and 6.0 64-bit higher-res version with new 3rd party-supporting video engine... focus on the new engine.

If I were Avid, that's just what I'd do - go for broke from a feature perspective for v6 make it EPIC in more ways than one... then focus all of the company's energy on trying to make it a stable release. I don't know how on earth you can get it to 100% stable with so many additions, but it has to be half-decent. If they released a version that crashed every 10 minutes it would really sink them. So, yeah, I am not gonna rush 'em.

Just my 2c - no insider knowledge.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
IBC has come and gone. Any idea when we Epic comes to Avid? Coming from Final Cut Pro and looking for a new home...


I just made the move, took advantage of the FCP offer that avid had going. I just got it today and it was supposed to end sept 30th......so if your going for it go now.
 
Guys I would not spend your money on anything else right now. I have two Epics. 6.0 is...well, I can't say more. Bruce has a lot of interesting predictions.
 
looking forward to that, 6 will be an upgrade so i guess i took the best path to that. The FCP offer from avid was very good, this end the discount was over £1000....

I left Avid and moved to FCP about 6 years ago.....time to move back....man Apple really messed up.
 
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