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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Nice laptop

I have to say this is the first Windows Laptop I have EVER been excited about.

This first Windows laptop in a very long time that I think has been made by someone who really wanted to make something special, that would excite them to use.

Now ... if it only ran OS X and offered Thunderbolt I'd snatch one in a heartbeat.

I hope it sells well and gives the PC market a kick in the teeth.

I also hope Apple considers adding a multi-touch display to its laptop mousepad. The utility of that is pretty high. Imagine, you could drag a box around the "curves" controls in Resolve and then use that to temporarily limit the region the mouse works in ... effectively making it more precise.

That would be useful in lots of applications.
 
for 2800 USD you don't even a quad core i7... that laptop comes with a dual core ... and also 320GB HDD as standard in that price ... the battery is also small for a 17 inch and the weight isn't any better at 7lbs for 2800 USD you can buy something a lot better ( even the Macbook Pro doesn't sound overpriced anymore when you compare that to it lol)
 
I love Razer and their mice and keyboards are phenomenal. (except the Abyssus) However, the Razer Blade leaves me cold. It does look incredible, and is probably the most stylish laptop I have ever seen. It is also ridiculously thin for a 17 inch laptop. But that's not supposed to be the main selling point of a gaming laptop! The performance is what you would expect in a laptop about 1/3rd the price. And when you can buy an Origin EON-17s with a Radeon HD 6990M and a 4.1 GHz Core i7 quad-core for roughly the same price, the Blade seems like obsolete junk. But then, the EON-17s is something special.

However, the Switchblade UI is truly innovative and might just be a major new trend. Nintendo feels similarly with Wii U controller, too. The placement is perfect. I mostly use desktops and workstations so whenever I use laptops my instinct is going looking for the mouse (touchpad) on the right side of the keyboard! I hope Razer releases a UI-only SKU for plugging into PCs. It is also the only 17 inch ultraportable. So, it is fair to say that there's no laptop quite like it.

The CEO has a point though. We have never seen the big PC vendors like Dell, HP, Apple or Acer innovate to the degree that boutique manufacturers like Origin, Maingear or now, Razer, are.
 
Subhadip Sen said:
I love Razer and their mice and keyboards are phenomenal. (except the Abyssus) However, the Razer Blade leaves me cold. It does look incredible, and is probably the most stylish laptop I have ever seen. It is also ridiculously thin for a 17 inch laptop. But that's not supposed to be the main selling point of a gaming laptop! The performance is what you would expect in a laptop about 1/3rd the price. And when you can buy an Origin EON-17s with a Radeon HD 6990M and a 4.1 GHz Core i7 quad-core for roughly the same price, the Blade seems like obsolete junk. But then, the EON-17s is something special.
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Oh really? I didn't notice that it was dual core. That does suck.

I do think a beefier portable workstation is a good idea, but the problem I find with most gaming laptops is that a low price seems to be the over-riding concern with paper specs coming in second and artificial benchmark performance is third.

They have some decent specifications, but their build quality is crappy and their reliability is relatively poor, and their real world performance is less than you might expect.


However, the Switchblade UI is truly innovative and might just be a major new trend. Nintendo feels similarly with Wii U controller, too. The placement is perfect. I mostly use desktops and workstations so whenever I use laptops my instinct is going looking for the mouse (touchpad) on the right side of the keyboard! I hope Razer releases a UI-only SKU for plugging into PCs. It is also the only 17 inch ultraportable. So, it is fair to say that there's no laptop quite like it.
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Switchblade seems like a good idea. Pretty excited to learn more.

Definitely with you in hoping for a version that can plug into any PC. (Or better yet a version that is wireless with an PC) including an OS X PC.

I have to say, the 17" MacBook Pro is more portable than this. Its not as wide or deep, 1.3 lbs lighter and its only 0.07 inches (1.7mm) thicker. Also the macBook Pro is made of metal ... its a lot more rigid. its susceptible to cosmetic damage, but its really hard to break them. (Not milspec hard, but much harder than average.) So its disingenuous to say that this is the only 17" ultraportable.

The CEO has a point though. We have never seen the big PC vendors like Dell, HP, Apple or Acer innovate to the degree that boutique manufacturers like Origin, Maingear or now, Razer, are.
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I disagree ... Apple has been innovating tremendously in laptops.

That arrangement you are complaining about with the mouse below the space bar ? Apple invented that. Before the PowerBooks shipped that way, keyboards were at the front of the computer, there was no palm rest and pointing devices were little trackballs carried in a separate soft pouch and clipped to the side of the computer!

(IBM did invent the pointing "nub" you still see on Lenovo laptops and some others.)

Two things I find to be absolutely necessary in a laptop today are the MagSafe connector for power and a backlit keyboard. Also ... I am completely spoiled by the multitouch trackpad and the battery life of the Apple laptops.

The thing about Apple is that the tend to make a lot more technology innovations inside their machines. The interface innovation they developed, that Razer is building on, is multitouch. (Yeah I know Apple didn't invent multitouch - but they were the first to develop it for commercial products.)

Here is the thing ... I think the Razer innovation is really a compromise on what people want ... which is an iPad that runs a full featured operating system and a full multi-touch interface.

Then again ... even the iPad doesn't carry the thinking about a multi-touch interface through to its logical conclusions, and its just not a way of interacting with a system that is embedded in people ... yet.

Overall, despite the limitations you point out Subhadip, I still like the Razer Blade system. Its a step in the right direction.

Hopefully other manufacturers will look at it and build that powerful portable desktop gaming system and mayb e some ultraportables with better specifications too.
 
Yes but Apple fights that stupid war with Adobe, therefore discarded Nvidia graphic cards and thus boycotts the Mercury Playback Engine which would really help in a laptop. And Apple's hardware inappropriately expensive. Think about RAM.

I like Apples attitude towars innovation but they easily throw away reliable or highly appreciated technology for that and wants everybody to change to new gear all the time. Good for a company bad for the customer.
I prefere obsolescence to be obsolete. And choices.
 
Felix K. said:
Yes but Apple fights that stupid war with Adobe, therefore discarded Nvidia graphic cards and thus boycotts the Mercury Playback Engine which would really help in a laptop. And Apple's hardware inappropriately expensive. Think about RAM.
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I don't think their "war with Adobe" over Flash has a thing to do with their use of Nvidia cards.

Apple is not "boycotting" Mercury. Frankly Adobe and Davinci/BlackMagic have made a stupid decision to require CUDA for their software. The writing has been on the wall in favor of OpenCL for a long time ... OpenCL works on BOTH ATI and Nvidia cards, as well as any other GPU with drivers.

I like Apples attitude towars innovation but they easily throw away reliable or highly appreciated technology for that and wants everybody to change to new gear all the time.
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Apple throws away gear? I have a pile of older Apple stuff, and so far no one from Apple has ever shown up at my home or place of business to throw out my gear.

Obsolescence is part of the technology business, and that goes double for computers.

Now, about RAM and other Apple supplied upgrades.

Apple warrants their parts as part of the computer. If the RAM flakes out causing an overvolt in the memory subsystem and trashes the mainboard ... Apple will replace the entire computer.

If you buy OWC RAM and you have the same problem, Apple's official policy is that you caused the fault, and therefore they'll fix the issue at your expense. (Often Apple will fix such an issue at reduced cost, but they don't owe you that ... they are being nice, like when Red helps you out on a repair.)

That's a huge gulf

I prefere obsolescence to be obsolete. And choices.
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You like Red better than Apple?

Well duh. The folks at Red care about both the product and the customer. Jim, Ted, Jarred et al. actually even care about our projects!

Apple likes making nice things ... but they don't seem, as a company, to particularly care whether or not things we will like and can use.

Here is the thing though - despite their famous commitment even Red can't truly make obsolescence obsolete.

They do their very best to make upgrading and improving their systems easy ... but the bottom line is that a Red One with the original sensor is obsolete now, unless you spend significant money to upgrade it. Even if you do upgrade your Red One ... you'll never be able to upgrade it to the already announced Dragon sensor. In fact you won't even be able to upgrade your yet to be released Epic S camera to a dragon sensor.

Still Red does their level best to live up to "obsolescence obsolete." That's appropriate given the price difference between Red products and Apple ones.

Apple takes a somewhat different view.

As opposed to Microsoft, they eliminate support for older technology whenever it prevents them from moving forward. Microsoft, by comparison, clutches to the past in the name of compatibility, even when that past is actively hampering their efforts to compete.
 
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