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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Why do I have a feeling like OSX Lion is going...

Geez, I hadn't heard these kind of negatives yet and was impressed with all the features I saw in the keynote. BUT features only matter if they work well together, smoothly and intuitively. Crossing my fingers that it's good, but I guess we'll find out next week :)
 
After reading that I know three things about the Author: he doesn't like launch pad and spaces, he doesn't like Apple's choice of textures and simulated materials, and he knows how to use a thesaurus.

Spaces does suck, so I don't use that feature and so it has zero impact on my operation of the system. I don't currently use gestures and couldn't give a shit if my computer's calendar looks like the calendar on my wall. His criticisms seem superfluous to me.

He doesn't like the book metaphor for an address book... Whoop-d freakin' doo.

Why do I get the feeling his buddies bet him that he could not use the word pastiche in his next article?
 
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Sorry, can't easily dismiss the guy like that.


Time will tell.


For me when the new Mac Pro's computers come out, that will tell me a lot of were the future of Apple resides.
 
That's fine for you. I just don't see much substance in the critique. There was nothing in there worth my concern. He has a lot more work to do to justify a comparison to Vista IMHO. If he's going to make such damning statements in the lead in he should make a more honest effort to back them up, otherwise he is just grandstanding.


Michael McLaughlin said:
Time will tell.


For me when the new Mac Pro's computers come out, that will tell me a lot of were the future of Apple resides.
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True enough.
 
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Jesus Diaz is an incredibly biased writer. There is good reason to dismiss what he writes because his opinion is as valid as any other random person on the internet.
 
Michael McLaughlin said:
For me when the new Mac Pro's computers come out, that will tell me a lot of were the future of Apple resides.
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Yes, this is what I believe as well. I will be happy with my Ipad, Macbook Air and so on, but more and more I'm thinking about going PC for my workstation.
If only there was a PC laptop with good specs AND good battery life, this is what I hate with PC laptops when on the field. Thunderbolt is coming to PC sooner or later so that's not something I need a mac for.
 
Wow, you guys are paranoid.... I've been running Lion for a few months now on some development systems. Unlike FCPX, tens (maybe hundreds?) of thousands of people are already running Lion through Apple's developer program. There has been no massive industry backlash, overall response has been pretty good. It really doesn't change anything you're already used to in Leopard. It does add some new stuff, like the iOS inspired LaunchPad. Mission Control is nice. Yeah, I could see where it could end up getting cluttered, or even confusing to a noob user, but look at it this way, my mom isn't going to be using Mission Control. Well, maybe... I don't know.

I do agree with Jesus on one part of his review. The faux wood texture is lame. I think faux wood is lame in real life, too. But it doesn't detract from the functionality of the calendar and the iBooks store, you know, the couple places they actually use it. No big deal, plenty of other stuff to worry about. If I start feeling like Lion is crap, I can just reboot into Windows and look at Aero for a while... It's not like it doesn't have a bunch of things that could be better, too.

All things considered, Lion is a nice update.

Oh, I guess I do agree with Jesus on one more point. Full screen apps. The concept is just fine, been around for ages anyway, but some of the implementation with common apps like Mail, iCal, etc.. leave a bit to be desired. I think some people at Apple are trying too hard to make something grand out of something that was just fine the way it is.

LaunchPad makes me want a new Macbook Air that I can fold the screen back onto the computer and have myself an instant iPad. ...OSX really needs an iOS layer to run all these apps on a real computer. We'll get that eventually, too bad they didn't go all the way with Lion.

Anyway, we should see Lion this week, like any day now. The GM release through the Apple Developer Portal has been available for some time and it appears to be locked as final.
 
I had been running Lion for a while too. Frankly, it doesn't feel that different from Snow Leopard. My biggest gripe is Safari. Apple is trying to hard to do too many things in it. I hope, that the shipping version will be more optimized. I had to switch to Firefox, as Safari was quite a bit slower and a bit buggy. The good news is ALL present apps run as is just fine without any updates. And for the record I really like Mission Control and I couldn't care less about Lauchpad. All in all, not a bad deal for $29.
 
Christoffer Glans said:
Yes, this is what I believe as well. I will be happy with my Ipad, Macbook Air and so on, but more and more I'm thinking about going PC for my workstation.
If only there was a PC laptop with good specs AND good battery life, this is what I hate with PC laptops when on the field. Thunderbolt is coming to PC sooner or later so that's not something I need a mac for.
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Ever considered the Lenovo Thinkpad X220 with 20+ hours battery life (with the optional slice) and an IPS display?

Or how about the new Sony Vaio Z which packs in Macbook Pro specs in a chassis that is thinner and lighter and more durable than Macbook Air (thanks to carbon fibre, 10 times the strength-to-density ratio of Aluminium), with options for an external GPU? The GPU dock incidentally also ups battery life to 14 hours. Not to mention, it ships with both Thunderbolt and USB 3.

All I am saying is there's no shortage of excellent options on the PC side for all kinds of usage scenarios. It's just that there's literally hundred times more options, so you will have to do your research.
 
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The good news is ALL present apps run as is just fine without any updates.
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All of yours, maybe. But I for one don't believe for a minute that any updated operating system has complete 100% backwards compatibility or anything even close. Especially one from Apple, because history shows that even their most minor point upgrades seem to break programs with annoying regularity. I wouldn't advise people to assume that there are no incompatibilities, because there will be. I won't be migrating until Blackmagic, Avid, Assimilate, Adobe, Autodesk (that's a lot of "A"s...) and a number of other vendors whose products I use certify their products for the new system or come out with (cough, cough) updates. And my guess is that very very few facilities with multiple licenses of any of these programs will update for quite some time.
 
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All of yours, maybe. But I for one don't believe for a minute that any updated operating system has complete 100% backwards compatibility or anything even close. Especially one from Apple, because history shows that even their most minor point upgrades seem to break programs with annoying regularity. I wouldn't advise people to assume that there are no incompatibilities, because there will be. I won't be migrating until Blackmagic, Avid, Assimilate, Adobe, Autodesk (that's a lot of "A"s...) and a number of other vendors whose products I use certify their products for the new system or come out with (cough, cough) updates. And my guess is that very very few facilities with multiple licenses of any of these programs will update for quite some time.
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Well, I guess from my post it wasn't obvious, that I was posting my own experience and I wasn't even implying, that ALL apps run without a hitch. In my totally unscientific observation I'm just stating, that FCP and all Adobe suite apps etc run just fine. Resolve doesn't run on my personal Macbook pro, so in this case I can't offer this testimony. Regardless, I don't see the transition to Lion as being as disruptive, as to Vista or Windows 7.
 
Subhadip Sen said:
Ever considered the Lenovo Thinkpad X220 with 20+ hours battery life (with the optional slice) and an IPS display?

Or how about the new Sony Vaio Z which packs in Macbook Pro specs in a chassis that is thinner and lighter and more durable than Macbook Air (thanks to carbon fibre, 10 times the strength-to-density ratio of Aluminium), with options for an external GPU? The GPU dock incidentally also ups battery life to 14 hours. Not to mention, it ships with both Thunderbolt and USB 3.

All I am saying is there's no shortage of excellent options on the PC side for all kinds of usage scenarios. It's just that there's literally hundred times more options, so you will have to do your research.
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Yes, I know this and I have been a PC user for quite some time. For mail, surf and "writing at a café"-stuff I'm happy with my Macbook Air.
It's the horsepower workstation that I'm not so sure will be a Mac. As an editor I need to use both FCP and Avid to stay alive, but at the moment, when so many migrate to premiere instead, I don't see why I should just use Premiere and Avid instead, both have different strengths and shortcomings but Avid is superreliable and Adobe is agreat finishing platform (Social Network for example).
So building my own PC will be the cheapest way to super power I can achieve and building one myself also gives me the combination of hardware I need for my type of work. A shame though that DaVinci Resolve is Mac only. A shame a lot of the best filmmaking softwares is macbased.
 
A shame though that DaVinci Resolve is Mac only. A shame a lot of the best filmmaking softwares is macbased.
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This may change.....

Seriously, think about it, Pro software and Pro hardware companies are not having a fun time with Apple either, they do not have the huge profit margins like Apple. They need to be receptive and plan ahead.

I guarantee that most of them, hopefully Davinci/Blackmagic, have been looking or are already well into the process of covering or recovering the PC market place as the future "dominant pro place" to develop.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
Wow, you guys are paranoid.... I've been running Lion for a few months now on some development systems. Unlike FCPX, tens (maybe hundreds?) of thousands of people are already running Lion through Apple's developer program. There has been no massive industry backlash, overall response has been pretty good. It really doesn't change anything you're already used to in Leopard. It does add some new stuff, like the iOS inspired LaunchPad. Mission Control is nice. Yeah, I could see where it could end up getting cluttered, or even confusing to a noob user, but look at it this way, my mom isn't going to be using Mission Control. Well, maybe... I don't know.

I do agree with Jesus on one part of his review. The faux wood texture is lame. I think faux wood is lame in real life, too. But it doesn't detract from the functionality of the calendar and the iBooks store, you know, the couple places they actually use it. No big deal, plenty of other stuff to worry about. If I start feeling like Lion is crap, I can just reboot into Windows and look at Aero for a while... It's not like it doesn't have a bunch of things that could be better, too.

All things considered, Lion is a nice update.

Oh, I guess I do agree with Jesus on one more point. Full screen apps. The concept is just fine, been around for ages anyway, but some of the implementation with common apps like Mail, iCal, etc.. leave a bit to be desired. I think some people at Apple are trying too hard to make something grand out of something that was just fine the way it is.

LaunchPad makes me want a new Macbook Air that I can fold the screen back onto the computer and have myself an instant iPad. ...OSX really needs an iOS layer to run all these apps on a real computer. We'll get that eventually, too bad they didn't go all the way with Lion.

Anyway, we should see Lion this week, like any day now. The GM release through the Apple Developer Portal has been available for some time and it appears to be locked as final.
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Good to know Jeff. Respect your opinion on these things and kinda wish 3rd party developers had access to FCPX in advance like this .... oh well ;)
 
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