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QuickTime & Red Files ??

George D.

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We just got our new RED-One and I'm still learning it.

For some reason, I cannot view the QuickTime videos incorporated within each take of the Red files in my Windows7 PC.

I have QuickTime7 Pro. Is that version not good enough, or is there a more compatible version I should be using? If so, which?

Thanks.

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Have you downloaded and installed the latest REDCode Quicktime codec?
 
i thought those files were only for mac? i could be wrong, but i've never played them on my pc... just sayin
 
Interesting question which is becoming very relevant with FCPX being such a let down - can the camera Quicktime proxies be viewed on a PC, or do you have to view the RAW files in Redcine-X, R3D Native apps, Premiere Pro with the Adobe CS installer, etc?
 
Hi George, congrats on your new RED.

You don't use the QuickTime proxies on PC, they are just for offline editing on Macs and are only a rough draft of what the real RED files are capable of, which are known as R3Ds.

Depending on what NLE you are using, you can probably use the R3Ds directly, and don't even need to transcode.

You'll also want to download the latest version of REDcineX, free at www.red.com, to see the full power you can get from the R3Ds.

There is a lot to learn so best to spend as much time as you can doing searches on this forum as virtually all the answers are there.

Best of luck!
 
jimhare said:
Hi George, congrats on your new RED.

You don't use the QuickTime proxies on PC, they are just for offline editing on Macs and are only a rough draft of what the real RED files are capable of, which are known as R3Ds.

Depending on what NLE you are using, you can probably use the R3Ds directly, and don't even need to transcode.

You'll also want to download the latest version of REDcineX, free at www.red.com, to see the full power you can get from the R3Ds.

There is a lot to learn so best to spend as much time as you can doing searches on this forum as virtually all the answers are there.

Best of luck!
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Are you saying that QuickTime does not play Red QuickTime Files on a "Windows7 PC"? Why didn't they tell me that at Red?

I realize the editing, etc, should be done with the Red R3D files, and I have no intention of doing otherwise. I just thought it would be nice to see each shot in QuickTime without the hassle of downloading them into a program like Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 or RedCineX.

I realize Red R3D files are of the highest quality, but with video cameras or DSLRs you can view each take, if you want, in Windows Media Player. So, I just was hoping I could do the same thing with the Red shots in a simpler program of some kind. It would just speed things up if I could pick out the good takes before putting them through CS5 or RedCineX. It would really be nice to just double click a shot and have it instantly play.

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Hi George, That's my understanding. The FCP installer from RED is what contains QuickTime support, and is Mac only.

https://www.red.com/support/all/downloads

I completely understand what you are saying, and don't mean to minimise the importance you are giving it, but truthfully, I don't see the problem here.

In my experience, working in RCX isn't slower than QuickTime. Direct the browser to your drive, all the clips will come up instantly, double click and play any you want. Takes 5 seconds. Plus, I always want to have a little look play as I go, to see what I can pull out of the footage later.

Is there a particular reason this method is troublesome?

It's the way I preview (also using a Rocket which in my opinion is mandatory for anyone working with R3Ds) and have always been 100% happy.

I'm on a Mac, where I can just double click the MOVs, and I still prefer doing everything in RCX.

Again, I don't want to appear like I'm dismissing your desire for QuickTime playback on the PC, but really, is the difference that much?

George D. said:
Are you saying that QuickTime does not play Red QuickTime Files on a "Windows7 PC"? Why didn't they tell me that at Red?

I realize the editing, etc, should be done with the Red R3D files, and I have no intention of doing otherwise. I just thought it would be nice to see each shot in QuickTime without the hassle of downloading them into a program like Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 or RedCineX.

I realize Red R3D files are of the highest quality, but with video cameras or DSLRs you can view each take, if you want, in Windows Media Player. So, I just was hoping I could do the same thing with the Red shots in a simpler program of some kind. It would just speed things up if I could pick out the good takes before putting them through CS5 or RedCineX. It would really be nice to just double click a shot and have it instantly play.

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jimhare said:
Hi George, That's my understanding. The FCP installer from RED is what contains QuickTime support, and is Mac only.

https://www.red.com/support/all/downloads

I completely understand what you are saying, and don't mean to minimise the importance you are giving it, but truthfully, I don't see the problem here.

In my experience, working in RCX isn't slower than QuickTime. Direct the browser to your drive, all the clips will come up instantly, double click and play any you want. Takes 5 seconds. Plus, I always want to have a little look play as I go, to see what I can pull out of the footage later.

Is there a particular reason this method is troublesome?

It's the way I preview (also using a Rocket which in my opinion is mandatory for anyone working with R3Ds) and have always been 100% happy.

I'm on a Mac, where I can just double click the MOVs, and I still prefer doing everything in RCX.

Again, I don't want to appear like I'm dismissing your desire for QuickTime playback on the PC, but really, is the difference that much?
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Thank you very much Jim. You have been very kind to explain all this to me, and I really appreciate it. Coming from a film background of many years, all this new technology can be very daunting at times.

Tell me something. I've been to Australia twice in my travels. Why is it that Aussies are so especially nice? ;)

I don't care whatsoever about QuickTime. In fact, I have no love for it at all. I just could see no other way. Excuse me, but I'm not sure what you mean by "Direct the browser to your drive...".

There is no way we can afford a Red Rocket at this time. We are a very small production company and our savings are now tapped.

Please understand that not only am I learning this new Red-One, but I'm also learning Adobe CS5 "and" RedCineX too. It's a lot to absorb, especially for someone who's been a film shooter all his life.

Please explain to me how I go about doing exactly what you describe.

Thanks again for your kindness and understanding.

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Any time George, the Red community looks after its own!

As for Australia, all I can say is when you live in the best place in the world it's easy to be in a good mood! As an American ex-pat I can say that! Actually originally from Northern California like yourself! Cupertino/Sunnyvale area.

Sorry about my cryptic process, don't have RCX open when I write them. There is a browser tab that let's you direct RCX to your footage. If you select a folder/directory full of R3Ds, they will all come up as thumbnails or a list. Thumbnails make it really easy to see which clip is which.

Then just double click and it will show up in the viewer, where you can play it and mess with the look.

No problem if you don't have a Rocket, just means you aren't allowed to complain about less than perfect performance. :w00t:

Best to set the resolution to half, or quarter if you just want a quick look at the performance. Actually this is probably about the same quality that the QuickTime proxies give anyway!

Spend an hour with RCX and you will be able to navigate it very smoothly.

Red is an amazing tool and the more you play with the post tools the more you'll love just how powerful yet easy it is.

Best of luck,

Jim
 
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