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This is allmost silly, but the Epic Rocks, it seems

Gunleik Groven

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Had the pleasure of reviewing demo footage from Arri (Alexa), Sony (F65) and RED (Epic) on a 4k screen this weekend.

OK
The RED1 has the MX too. I feel in many situations utterly silly for feeling that the R1M is a more ballanced camera than R1 MX.
And that the MX is a bit underpowered in the R1 body.
And that I really don't find them hard to match.

Well...
I stand by all that, actually...

AND that the MX in the Epic is a totally different beast all together than in the R1 MX.

Geeeesus was them images gorgeous.

And the one significant thing that the Epic handled well that is of most importance is:
Skintones

And
Skintones.

Seems I and Red have some disagreement on dynamic range issues on R1 MX

And flexibility of the files

Which I find... welll... not too good...
I happen to like to agree with people... :)

BUT
I sure love the fact that I am an Epic-X stage two guy!
That camera has a different level of... well most everything...

The images look so... "fat" for a lack of better worthing.

Sure.
def looks like I will be able to match R1 MX with it, but still the Epic is in a totally different league.

And as to DR...

we can disagree on the differences of opinion of range, but we surely agree on how well the Epic looks when shot for its good sides!

I also learned a bit on how the wavelet compression affects images this weekend. Not by anyone telling me, but through direct simultaiously shot images with the Alexa. Definitely NOT shot at exposure levels where the R1 MX excells, but that was still very informative. And that lesser compression of the Epic sure looks like a fantastic step foreward in that regard, based on the demo footy.

I happen to think at the same time that if you cannot get a good shot out of the current crop of digital cinema cameras, you cannot really blame the cameras, and that for cinematic screening 4k is def the way to go.
AND that we're still a couple of camera-generations away before we have reached a common baseline ground and functionality and operativity becomes the main parameters. (Like it is between an aaton and arri with the same filmstock...)

That said, The Epic looks amazingly good. The big question will be how the HDRx performs. The MX is a sensible lady. Too much light is not one of her favourites...

If you look at an R1 MX image, you can note that it is a bit underfed in the low region as to processing power. (I love the cam, that's not the point).
NOT so with the Epic.

the Epic does not look like a "small R1 mx". It def looks like a new cam.

Great vibes all over!

I want my Epic now!

Cheers!

Gunleik
 
If Gunleik is happy... so am I. :-)

Thanks for the post.

Jim
 
Gunleik, we will play with my Epic-M very very soon! ( I got some indications today)

;-)
 
Glad to hear you liked the Epic footage Gunleik... I always enjoy and appreciate your honest perspective.
 
Jannard said:
If Gunleik is happy... so am I. :-)

Thanks for the post.

Jim
Click to expand...
LOL

laughing actually quite loudly in my home in the deep forests! :-))

Thanks Jim!

But you have to give me the fact that untill this weekend I haven't really been able to look at any of the Epic images in a "real" way.

I have a huge episodic scheduled for October for a two-camera Epic shoot. Unfortunately M is not an option.
That might seem bad, but the scale of economics here with 4.5 mill people has an effect on a lot of decissions.

Amongst others that was important on in making the RED1 as popular as it became here... -:))


That said. I am really dying to take this camera out for a ride.
I would go allmost anywhere in the world to be able to shoot with this tool.

ANd actually that is not because it "wins" all parameters.

But from the look of it:
If you shoot it for what it is good at, it currently is the best possible camera remotely "out there".

Really loved its imagery and capacity.

And 5+k is here to stay!

Cheers and thanks for the incredible effort that has have to have been put into this beast!

And then we can discuss gamma-curves in another thread! :-))
 
Ah...

Have to add

P+S is joining the game. But the footy they used to introduce themselves was a bit counterproductive...

There is a reason some are DPs and others are engineers...

The biggest cheer - as always from me - goes to Graeme and Deanan, though!

Gee. You guys happen to rock my world frequently!

NOW

Let's talk aces... :-))
 
Thanks Gunleik, this means a lot coming from you! Can you say what the footage was for?
 
Hi Gunleik and thank you for a great post!

I have an Epic-M inquiry pending.
If RED approves me to buy one, I would be happy to offer my Epic on that two-camera shoot in October.

Me, you and Eirik should meet up and have an Epic conversation one day :-)
 
Thanks Hans.

We'll probably be shooting R1 MX if the Epic-x isn't available at startup.

That said, an Epic meet would be very high on my priorities...
 
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