Red One with Tyler Nose Mount

[danbrazda]

The internet can be a scary (and hopefully in this case) misleading thing. I'm seeing all kinds of horror stories about using the Red One on a Tyler Nose Mount. Most of the complaints refer to the CMOS jello-cam issues. What's the consensus on this board regarding this subject?

 

[danbrazda]

Doesn't seem to be consensus on these boards either. Did an exhaustive search but getting mixed messages. How about if I change my original question to: What mounting system has given the most trouble-free aerial results with the Red One?

 

[Greg M]

unless you have a bad pilot, I dont know why you would have any issues.

 

[Vance Colvig]

The "Tyler Nose Mount" that I know tilts only, and is controled by the operator. The pilot controls "pan" (yaw) with the pedals, which is somewhat limited depending on airspeed for moving shots. Can't see how that would create any jello-cam pictures. If the helicopter's rotor system is not properly tracked and balanced, it will give you a rough ride. Out of track will give you a vertical vibration, out of ballance will give you a lateral vibration. I consider the nose mount useful for POV type aerial shots, and I prefer a wide lens which lessens vibration issues and is better for providing a sense of motion, especially close to the ground. Maybe the bad rap for cmos sensor cameras comes from slewing the "Tyler Ball Mount" too fast, but this really has nothing to do with the Tyler name brand or using a helicopter as a aerial platform . Best to call or email Nelson Tyler himself. The company is is located in Van Nuys, CA. As for a recommendation for a Red One for areial work, depends on the shot and the budget. SSD is the way to go. ET mount was a good band-aid for the RedRaid, but not as positive as the SSD drive. Hope this helps a bit.

 

[danbrazda]

Talked to Tyler directly and they are saying that they have tested the Red One on their Nose Mount and it is basically a crap shoot as to whether or not it will work. They said they took two Red ones out on the same helicopter and same mount and one cam worked perfectly and the other was unusable. Their theory is that certain cameras are effected by certain frequency vibrations introduced from the helicopter through the mount and to the camera. My plan at this point is to test fly my Red and see what happens and have my Varicam along as a backup. Have to say- this sucks.