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Why Grammar Matters

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When doing script readings, grammar is always high on my checklist. 'Ah, gee, Alex, can't we just focus on the story?' is a common defense. 'What does it matter if I say ''the girl runs fastly''?'

Well, partly because 'fastly' became obsolete back in the 19c, but primarily because readers don't want to have to translate English into English. That aside, where poor grammar can really do damage is in dialogue. For example, a character whose backstory includes high education and social status, probably won't be speaking like a drunken drop-out - unless, of course, that is the writer's intent.

All I'm saying is, if you are serious about writing, or at the very least, want your characters to be authentic, then find something like 'Elements of Style', or another easy-to-read grammar book, and spend even a few moments a week thumbing through it. Pick up something on cadence while you're at it. Yes, it really matters.

Of the thirty or so scripts I read each year, 3 or 4 at best have a solid command of English. Many are simply too confusig to get through.

If you are a filmmaker that relies on others to write your material, you need to be able to recognize when poor grammar is pulling your story down, or is in conflict with a character's backstory.

Remember, poor grammar translates into poor communication of ideas and intent. An actor, light tech, costumes designer, etc., can easily misread intent if it is not clearly communicated, and the director will be fighting with the script to extrapolate the vision.

Be a shame to spend all the time and money on what appears to be a great story, only to have it come across as unrefined. Attention to detail begins with the written word.

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Also may give producers the idea that the screenwriter can't write, so they might get another screenwriter to come in and try again. Another possibility is that you could end up killing enthusiasm for your story completely and never get a film out of it. Either way, being sloppy isn't professional and a screenwriter, of all things, especially these days, can't afford to submit anything less than perfect.
 
Script readers are looking for any excuse to reject a script - bad grammar, typos, spelling etc just makes your script more likely to be rejected.
 
As a writer, one should
1) Read voraciously, and everything.

2) Write constantly.

At some point the grammar starts to take care of itself - and becomes something more than just grammar, it becomes your style. But only if you do both of the above.

In screenwriting, those who can write succinctly and with style will prevail.
 
I have a hard time ignoring "there/their/they're, your/you're" errors and the non-word "alot" in anything I read, but particularly scripts because supposedly they were written by "writers."

Also, a remedial concept of punctuation is beneficial in getting a point across.
Famous example:
"Let's eat, Dorothy" does not mean the same thing as "Let's eat Dorothy"
 
I'd change this thread to "why Graeme matters"... :-)

Jim
 
I'd change this thread to "why Graeme matters"... :-)

Jim
You seem in a jocular frame of mind tonight. Things must be going well?
 
For example, a character whose backstory includes high education and social status, probably won't be speaking like a drunken drop-out - unless, of course, that is the writer's intent.

Ah yes, and beware the hack editor, (or actor) who assumes the writer's "intent" was just a mistake and "corrects" it.
In the very first short story I ever had published, the central character mostly spoke in an educated, scholarly tone, but towards the end, and when in private with his partner-in-dastardliness, he dropped into a less formal tone, hopefully conveying to the reader that all might not be what it first seemed.
Except, without any consultation, the dumbass editor changed "Great! This'll save us a lot of trouble...." to "Splendid. This will save us a great deal of trouble.", and "'y got it ...?" (indicating a muttered, furtive tone) became "You've got it?"
Years later he was still gushing about what a great story it was, except, to me it no longer made any sense! :furious3:
All I'm saying is, if you are serious about writing, or at the very least, want your characters to be authentic, then find something like 'Elements of Style', or another easy-to-read grammar book, and spend even a few moments a week thumbing through it. Pick up something on cadence while you're at it. Yes, it really matters.
As an alternative, if you're not sure about your you're & yours, its and it's, and so on, just about any professionally typeset book will have all those correct, and if you skim through the text you'll soon find actual examples of their usage, and it will also give extra clues as to where they might be used.

And, of course, a Spell Checker will not pick up "break" where you should have used "brake", "sauce" where you should have used "source" and so on. I don't know the software manufacturers don't make spell checkers that simply highlight all words that commonly get confused, and offer a dropdown list of alternative spellings with their actual meanings.

None of this will help you if you simply have no writing talent of course.

Another concept that seems to be beyond most aspiring scriptwriters, is to simply get a few people together and do a script reading, to see what it "sounds like". If you think the actors are going to "re-interpret" incomprehensible dialogue for you, you've got another think coming....
 
Another concept that seems to be beyond most aspiring scriptwriters, is to simply get a few people together and do a script reading, to see what it "sounds like". If you think the actors are going to "re-interpret" incomprehensible dialogue for you, you've got another think coming....

Listen, I'm all for meeting up with other screenwriters or aspiring screenwriters and doing things like talking story ideas, feedback and reading scripts aloud for just such a reason, I just don't actually know any other screenwriters let alone screenwriters who would be interested in doing such a thing.
 
Listen, I'm all for meeting up with other screenwriters or aspiring screenwriters and doing things like talking story ideas, feedback and reading scripts aloud for just such a reason, I just don't actually know any other screenwriters let alone screenwriters who would be interested in doing such a thing.

Fair point, but anyone with a general understanding of what makes decent writing can be very helpful. They don't need to specialize in the writing of screen material, but anyone who reads newspapers, articles, books, or is an avid movie watcher can give feedback. Not all feedback is helpful, but if you get one small nugget out of an evening with some buddies, a few beers and a read through you're still better than where you were before.

Another thing to consider is getting in touch with a local college film department. Go back and forth with professors or take a class. Feedback is feedback as far as I can tell.
 
The problem with scriptwriting these days is lack of spirit and heart and the inability to face the truth. No matter how many bad spelling and grammar errors there may be in Fight Club, it will still be a great script. If a person judges something on grammer but understands the communication then that person isn't worth dealing with any way. Anality has no place in art.
 
Saw something on a board recently - "...which underminds the DOP" - Underminds? You mean undermines surely. I love such malapropisms. "Look here, what are you incinerating?"

Makes me wonder what they interpret the words to mean.
 
Saw something on a board recently - "...which underminds the DOP" - Underminds? You mean undermines surely. I love such malapropisms. "Look here, what are you incinerating?"

Makes me wonder what they interpret the words to mean.
Norm Crosby lives!
 
Makes me wonder what they interpret the words to mean.


Many a fued has resulted, no doubt. I suppose if I were clever enough I would purposely mislead via malapropisms just to give the film scholars something to argue over - 'artist's intent.
 
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