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M8 (aka 008)...

Things were happening fast and furious, so I didn't specifically set out to test battery duration. But I'd estimate a Red Brick lasts between 2.5 and 3 three hours of shooting on Epic at the altitudes and temperatures we shot at. Even if we had tested battery duration during our shooting sessions it wouldn't have been an accurate indication of average battery duration, because we were shooting in a cold climate in the mountains at altitudes that ranged from 4,000' all the way up to around 10,000' at the ski resort. Most batteries don't last as long in a combination of cold weather and high altitude. Sea level and warmer temperatures would be a better indication, and IMO the batteries will last quite a bit longer.

In my limited experience so far with Epic, and I could be wrong on this, Epic draws less power then Red One.
 
Thanks Zak...we've been having fun carting Epic way out into the mountains and red rock desert canyons to see what images we can get. I did all the shooting of Epic this week - it was my stomping grounds, and I'm way familiar with the shooting locations here in the Rockies - and lots of other places too :)

Our crew is regularly committed to keeping it real - no frills and sugar coating in the kind of work we do. But for my taste the real mobile outdoor genres of production are the ultimate rush. I'm fortunate enough to make a living documenting what is my off-work lifestyle - adventure travel, alternative sports, tourism, wildlife, cultures, music, and nature. Work should be fun - and mine really is :)

Being small, but modular, and scalable, Epic can be a great camera for whatever style of production someone does. What I suspect before, but know now, it that when its setup like I did this week, its really going to be a superb camera for the mobile EFP genres I work in. No doubt when setup for cine style it will naturally be a superb camera for that.

Ketch will use it in cine style a lot, as will many others who use the camera. But Epic will also be used a ton in mobile EFP work. The cool thing is that you select a lens, and accessorize the camera for what you need that day - essentially a chameleon of a camera. Bottom line, set Epic up for what you need to shoot that day - and go out and nail some great images :)
 
Okay guys,

after long 8 hours drive, and 117 emails replied, I tucked a minute to grab this R3D file from 5k 96fps, pass it thru Photoshop, a quick second, blue filter added, NO sharpening, just wanted to give a little taste of what is to come.

EPIC M8 Footage will be Edited and Graded, to be posted in the next few days.

Frame Grab from Footage Soot by Steve Gibby ;)

SnowMobile_EpicM8.jpg


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EPIC/ATOM Ready for 3D ;)
DEEP ATOM Coming Soon ;)

 
Ah...you made it home safely Ketch!

So we have our first frame grab up...cool (no pun intended!)

I shot that sequence in 5k/2:1 aspect ratio/29.97 project frame rate/overcranked to 96 fps/shutter speed 1/144th second/ISO 800/10:1 Redcode. The lens used was a stock Canon FD 150-600 f5.6L with a PL mount conversion. The guy was coming at me about 40 miles per hour as I simultaneously racked focus while slowly widened out the frame.

I'm sure it will take some time to sort through the raw footage, and get a lot of frames up. Thanks for taking the time after a long drive ;)
 
Yes, sometime reasonably soon we'll post some short QuickTime 1080p clips for download. Right now Ketch is back in L.A. with our post staff analyzing the footage. Grading, correcting, and cutting of some short clips will follow.

Raw stills and short QT clips from Epic M8's adventures here in Utah should give viewers a glimpse of how an Epic outdoors can perform.

Coming up soon from our upcoming California M8 shooting will be fashion models, slo motion dancers, some big wave surfing, and many more cool things :thumbsup:
 
Steve Gibby said:
Ah...you made it home safely Ketch!

So we have our first frame grab up...cool (no pun intended!)

I shot that sequence in 5k/2:1 aspect ratio/29.97 project frame rate/overcranked to 96 fps/shutter speed 1/144th second/ISO 800/10:1 Redcode. The lens used was a stock Canon FD 150-600 f5.6L with a PL mount conversion. The guy was coming at me about 40 miles per hour as I simultaneously racked focus while slowly widened out the frame.

I'm sure it will take some time to sort through the raw footage, and get a lot of frames up. Thanks for taking the time after a long drive ;)
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Indeed we did Steve ;)

Thanks again for the wonderful time in Utah!!

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EPIC/ATOM Ready for 3D ;)
DEEP ATOM Coming Soon ;)

 
Great Ketch! Me and Pam loved having the crew up here to Gibby Ranch. We'll look forward to having the crew visit us again sometime soon :-)

I think everyone will like the next batch of photos and BTS video - which features the crew shooting skiing, snowboarding, and snowmobiling at Eagle Point Ski Resort in southern Utah.

Yes, this new BTS video should have everyone laughing for sure :)
Joseph really nailed all the BTS videos for the Utah shooting...nice work Joseph!
 
More Frame Grabs coming, and we are just about done with the New BTS Video , so will be Linked on to my first Post in
this Thread in a few.. the Photo Gallery will have to wait till we take care of our Server, happy in a way that it was
Crashed, or should I say Crushed he he, as it was for good reason, but not so happy of the consequences, but working
on it and will be ready very soon.

In the mean time I like to take once again this opportunity to say THANK YOU to every one here at Reduser, our next
BTS, was in your Honor more then the others, so I hoe you will enjoy it, just don't left your A^#@ at me too much,
he he, at 10,000 my Brain possibly was lucking Oxygen ha ha!!

ITS ALIVE!!


An EPIC M8 Snow Day!! Thanks to Joseph Huston for the Video ;)

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EPIC/ATOM Ready for 3D ;)
DEEP ATOM Coming Soon ;)

 
The last day we had Epic M8 here at the ranch, before M8 headed back to California and then out into the production world, me and the crew decided to take the time to celebrate some really significant Red camera history by putting both my R8 and M8 cameras on some black cloth on my kitchen table and then shoot some informal pics of them together for possibly the last time (who knows?).

An entire five years of Red camera history and evolution was sitting there before me. My memory raced through a cavalcade of milestones since that night at Red in August 30, 2007 when I first received R8 - many continents and rich experiences followed. R8 is still in near perfect condition, inside and out. In my imagination R8 seemed proud to take its place next its smaller and more capable young brother - M8. But they both fully exude the common pedigree reflected by the dream of Jim Jannard.

Getting M8 is in a way like having another son in the family. To continue that analogy, R8 has been a great son, a hard worker, and will always be my firstborn. Now M8 joins the family, soon to be followed by two Epic X brothers, and several Scarlet brothers. Red One "London", a pre-production city named Red of mine, wasn't home for the photo. Already gone from the family are Red One "Hollywood" (another pre-production city named camera), and Red One 00700, who's been gone for a long time now. Sometime soon R8 will most likely be leaving home too.

My Red cameras all mean a tremendous amount to me, in terms of symbolism, the images they've created, and the tremendous vehicles they've been. The images shot with them still swim around my head regularly. Though I'm in awe of this new M8 and its capabilities, my earlier Red One cameras will always hold a position of great honor in my memory.

The attached photos are of Red One 00008 and Epic M 00008 before they're taken back out into the world to fulfill some more dreams. Time moves on...but memories will always remain
 

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Just ND .9

That frame is from a drive through sequence in a beautiful red rock canyon. The graded and edited 1080p full motion montage we'll post tonight contains Utah shots I did originally in 5k last week with Epic M8 - of a smooth red canyon drive through, some action sports tripod shots at a beautiful mountain ski resort (snowboarding, skiing, and snowmobile), and a surprise drive through shot sequence which will demonstrate Epic's natural dynamic range - without even using HDRx™ :)

For the upcoming motion sequence, let me offer a big thanks to Joseph Hutson for the edit, Michael Thornton for managing the color work, Aaron Peak for the color work, Neil Smith for his DI work, and naturally my alliance Ketch for all his hard work on this. Check back here later this evening for the a link to it...:)
 
Thank you :)

No IR filter needed. ND 9 was the strongest I used all four days of shooting. Red rates the native ISO for the sensor at 800, and I concur. In that bright daylight, for the subject matter I was shooting, I wanted to be between f5.6 and f11. In morning light ND .6 worked well, then in brighter daylight the ND .9 was the ticket. Keep in mind that I wasn't shooting 24 fps. For the drive through and sports shots, my setup was 5k/2:1 aspect ratio/ISO 800/10:1 Redcode/29.97 project frame rate/Varispeed 96 fps for slow motion/shutter speed 1/144th second and at times 1/200th second. That fast shutter speed reduces the need for high value ND filters.

For that canyon drive through shot I used a Ruby 14-24 zoom set at 16mm, and the new Red matte box with an ND .9 filter.

In the surprise sequence in the montage, which was a very dark environment, I selected 5k/2:1 aspect ratio/10:1 Redcode/ISO 1600/29.97 project frame rate/ Varispeed 12 fps undercrank/.

From my perspective, the real challenge with Epic will be for the shooter to have broad enough skill sets, and an open enough mind to be able to maximize the performance of the camera itself. This camera can be set up to do just about anything you want...
 
What's impressive to me about the Epic so far is the clarity and character of the shots -- especially on less than ideal display formats ... i.e. compressed for the web. What Jim and the gang have done technically is of course impressive -- yet the artistic aspect feels like it will be even more impressive.

By that I mean that there's a unique character and quality to the footage/frame grabs I've seen so far that's hard to describe but beautiful (the only comparison for such a lovely "look" or character is I have is Leica, though it's obviously different than that). That is amazing to me because I imagine this isn't intentionally easy to create.

Bravo to everyone, thanks for sharing. I can truly only imagine how it's going to look projected at 4k -- NAB here I come ......

Anthony
 
Lee Saxon said:
I think if I got a brand new Epic I would be doing the editing/color work myself, reveling in the joy of RAW, for at least the first shoot or two.
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Well, I tend to agree Lee. In this case we have access to an excellent team of colorists who really wanted to get their feet wet processing our Epic files, so we went for it.

But I also have copies of all the raw files I shot in Utah, and a pretty comprehensive edit suite at my studio. You can bet that using that M8 raw file library I'll also be experimenting with curves, doing some one-lights in RedCine X and Color, and doing some edit sequences myself too :)
 
I realize that you only had an ND .9 during the shoot, but did the colorist apply a darkening window on the sky?

Thanks,
P
 
No, I don't believe so Phil. All week I exposed Epic in the same quick mobile style I've always shot Red One - exposure via zebras and histogram. On the sequence that frame came from it was nice mid-afternoon light, not harsh at all, so ND .9 was more than adequate. BTW - I focused Epic in my usual style too - eye focusing by myself and hand racking lens barrels by myself.

Note: for this type of outdoor shooting I very much prefer to use a polarizer. I have screw-on polarizers available for all my Canon lenses - but the Red Canon mount isn't ready yet, so I used all PL mount cine lenses last week, along with the new Red matte box. Unfortunately we didn't have a polarizer for the matte box so I just used ND .3, .6, and .9 filters last week.

There's basically no air pollution up here in my area of the Rocky Mountains (southern Utah). We were shooting at altitudes between 4,000' and 10,000'. The skies here get a deep blue, and at night there is absolutely no light pollution either - we see millions of stars. My friend Tom Lowe would be in his glee doing time lapse here :)
 
Well, I would have lost a bet. The sky is beautifully dark, but the hills on either side look darker too, thus my guess that it had been windowed.

Truly beautiful image Gibby. Imagine how this will raise the bar for scenic cinematography. Wow.

Thanks again for sharing, Steve.

Phil
 
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