Question about Scarlet package

[David Rasberry]

Either you misread what I was getting at, or it seems, yes, you are still confused. I want my 2k to actually resolve 2k.

Yes, there is some confusion with the native ratio and using terms 2k/1080p.... but the 3k sensor, at the native ratio, will resolve MORE than 1080p/16:9 (it should resolve around 1200p)... therefore, my point stands, you will be able to crop some of the footage and get more "reach" and still have fully resolved 1080p.

True, you should have 30-40% higher optical resolution with Scarlet than with any 1080p camera. So there is room to play.

One of the early JPEG still shots posted by Sanjin in 720p scaled from a 4k Red 1 image illustrated for me the serious advantages of downscaling. It was a closeup shot of the back of his hand. Loading that into Photoshop and zooming in there was never the slightest hint of aliasing, even at high magnification it seemed smooth and seamless. I was quite amazed.

 

[Jim Retar]

for example... if you use 25% as a conservative loss of resolution after debayer...

you would have 2304x1215 (native ratio)... from that, you can make the 16:9 equivalent of 1215p, therefore giving you crop room.

 

[Jim Retar]

True, you should have 30-40% higher optical resolution with Scarlet than with any 1080p camera. So there is room to play.

Yea, it is amazing!

Unless people have seen true 1080p R1 footage, film scan and or maybe alexa (very close to resolved 1080p) etc, they have not seen 1080p... the stuff that comes out of even the good 1080p prosumer cams like EX3 doesn't compare. As for the 5DII, well, enough said!

 

[Robert Rogoz]

Wow, I would love to be shown an "affordable" 17-18X lens for a 2/3" sensor that will retain a 1.8 aperture throughout its zoom range. I am not expert on 2/3" lenses but wouldn't such a lens be in the $14K to $20K range?

Personally, I think a 24 to 200 (or so) FF35mm equivalent is a killer lens, and great for 90% of what many people need (one possible exception being wildlife), especially given RED's suggestions that they intend it to be "cine quality" all the way. It has also been said that standard lens adaptors will work when you need a longer lens. I am sure it won't fill the bill for everyone, though.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

There are plenty of lenses F1.6 wide and 2.8 tele under 8K. There are also lenses in 15K plus range, depends on what your needs are. Generally with lenses I find is, the better the glass, the higher the price tag. However for most of ENG users one ring on the lens and some funky screen and button controls will be a deal killer. I am just pointing out the fact to RED, that they might want to re-think the lens design to increase the sales. I am using HM100 at the time and I will never buy again camera with such control layout. The draw of HM100 was the size/weight to picture quality. Looks like Scarlet fixed is similar size/weight to XF300

 

[Michael Olsen]

Well, to play devil's advocate...

I've never used or seen a camera with a control scheme similar to what people think the Fixed scarlet will use, with a multi-function ring and then the possible use of additional buttons/toggles/etc. And what about the REDMOTE PRO - how will it fit in? What if, at least some of the time, this new system actually works better than what is standard now? Just because something is "the way we do it - and the way we've done it for 20 years" doesn't mean that something somewhat better isn't right around the corner. This has been proven very true lately in the film/video industry.

I think it'll be interesting to see what people think after having the camera in hand for a while after they have been competently trained (or self-trained) on how to best utilize it's functionality. Until then, I'm not going to knock their control system.

And if someone still wants the features of the scarlet without the lens, they can just step right into the Interchangeable body, for what, $4000?

 

[Carey Lee Coffey]

I trust that whatever Jim and the Red team decide to release will be amazing beyond our wildest dreams. They are too smart and aware to release a half-baked camera that doesn't measure up to professional standards. I welcome everything the camera has to offer including all advances in technology and diversions from the status quo.

 

[Robert Rogoz]

I trust that whatever Jim and the Red team decide to release will be amazing beyond our wildest dreams. They are too smart and aware to release a half-baked camera that doesn't measure up to professional standards. I welcome everything the camera has to offer including all advances in technology and diversions from the status quo.

Cinematography and ENG work started way before popularization of video. Things are done the way they are done for a reason.
My experience with RED ONe is that it is an ergonomical nightmare and camera stopped working 2 times in one day! We anded up using Varicam for the rest of the time.

 

[Terry VerHaar]

Cinematography and ENG work started way before popularization of video. Things are done the way they are done for a reason.
My experience with RED ONe is that it is an ergonomical nightmare and camera stopped working 2 times in one day! We anded up using Varicam for the rest of the time.

I am by no means the most experienced RED ONE user around this forum, but in the 20 or so days I have shot with it, we put it on a jib, on a dolly, shot handheld, shot in a car, exteriors, interiors, in a bathroom, on the street, in the cold, in the heat. You name it. We had two batteries and one RED drive and we never lost a frame. I guess we just got lucky. :laugh:

It does seem like an awful lot of people like their RED ONEs.

 

[Yannick Verry]

Secondly, this is just my opinion, but the Red 5" monitor seems like the best viable professional option for the Scarlet Fixed. Personally I can't see how the 2.8" monitor could be suitable for any real run and gun, documentary, news gathering or touchscreen control. It just seems too small for accurate focusing and any real on the hoof shooting (studio work maybe)

I totally agree with this.
We've seen Ted and other people manipulating Epic with 5' lcd, and sometime they have to touch twice to get the focus they want. I guess it's just a matter of practice but 2.8' will be definitely too small for such a use.

 

[Steve Wake]

I totally agree with this.
We've seen Ted and other people manipulating Epic with 5' lcd, and sometime they have to touch twice to get the focus they want. I guess it's just a matter of practice but 2.8' will be definitely too small for such a use.

"Definitely too small." I disagree. 5" better. Almost always, unless you're looking for smaller form factor/inconspicuousness. And there's always the $$$$ issue.

My "toy" TM700 60p"1080" has a touch screen. If the subject is too small to hit accurately or you want to check critical focus, you just zoom in - focus (manual or touch) - zoom out. With the Scarlet this will be even easier since (I assume) I'll be able to zoom with one of the dials under thumb or forefinger, so I won't have to move my hands. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a "one-button press and hold full zoom" programmability just for this purpose. Pretty standard stuff.

 

[Kalani Prince]

"Definitely too small." I disagree. 5" better. Almost always, unless you're looking for smaller form factor/inconspicuousness. And there's always the $$$$ issue.

My "toy" TM700 60p"1080" has a touch screen. If the subject is too small to hit accurately or you want to check critical focus, you just zoom in - focus (manual or touch) - zoom out. With the Scarlet this will be even easier since (I assume) I'll be able to zoom with one of the dials under thumb or forefinger, so I won't have to move my hands. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a "one-button press and hold full zoom" programmability just for this purpose. Pretty standard stuff.

Have the same cam and agree the small screen is definitely very useable for a variety of shooting situations. Here's my second outing with the TM700 and it's small screen : ) Its multi function focus ring is great as well. I left it on iris control and just ran around adjusting it on the fly. All focus in this clip was done with the face recognition focus on. http://vimeo.com/17283227

I'm guessing Scarlet functionality will be similar but way better plus god and aliens!

 

[Tim Nitsch]

I have a couple questions.

Does anyone know what the run times of the grip battery are on the scarlet? I thought Jarred said in a video it was like 35 mins but that was when the grip was on a Epic. I would think it could be longer because its 3k vs 5k but I'm not sure.

And to go along with the topic of batteries does anyone know if the battery in the grip is interchangeable and if we will be able to buy extra batteries.

Last one and Im not sure if this one belongs here but, When people talk about the Fixed Lens having auto focus do they mean continuous auto focus or just point it at a object a half press the shutter release button type of auto focus.

 

[Joel Arvidsson]

Hi Jim, how is the Scarlet fixed packages going? Can you spill any information? Like if youre thinking of one fixed package or 2 different packages or more. Will it be a a SSD package?