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Scarlet lens ring questions!

Shawn Nelson

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So I asked this in the scarlet picture thread and it got buried, but this is important. I was continuing the thoughts of Jeff

Jeff Kilgroe said:
No... You can assign the ring to any of those three funtions. Assign those functions to other dials, switches, etc.. on the camera. You can toggle between the functions.. Assign that toggle to any button, etc..

So you can have focus on the lens gear/ring while you control iris from the dial on the handle and zoom on a rocker switch. Need to switch to zoom on the lens ring and use AF mode? Toggle your settings from another button.

Or at least that's how I understand it all... :)
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Can Red confirm or deny Jeff's guesses?

Can we adust zoom, iris and focus at the EXACT same time by turning the lens wheel and the two wheels on the handle?

Can we program those buttons 1,2,3,4 to be an instant, 1-click change to the lens wheel? Meaning...lens wheel is currently focus, I click '2' and instantly the wheel is zoom. I change focal length, press '1' and instantly the wheel is focus again?

Lastly, can the Redmote wheel be used to remotely control zoom, focus, and/or iris?

I must admit I am surprised to see that Scarlet still has only one wheel on the fixed lens. It made perfect sense back when Scarlet was "3k for $3k" and was aimed at prosumers. But now I'm not so sure. I'm getting email from some people who are much more concerned about this then I am (as my eyes are still firmly on EpicX :-).
 
Great questions.

Now that some time has passed and more money has been saved, I'm second guessing myself on getting a couple of the Scarlets and instead, switching to an EPIC-S (depending on how much the price has changed upon release). The main reason for the switch would be for the above concerns....
 
there's still a lot of discussion in that thread on that subject... i answered that already in there, though I'm not RED... all that had been confirmed.

i'm about 100% sure. the redmote (and redmote pro) wheel are designed exactly for that. confirmed by RED. all three can be adjusted at the same time, via side handle, redmote(s), iphones, ring, etc. etc. confirmed by RED. and my understanding is you can set the preset buttons to whatever you want, so yes.

with all those posts... i'd figure you'd be keeping up on these things ;)

here's where discussion original discussion of the ring, and other things is still going on - http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=52962&page=18
 
paulherrin said:
there's still a lot of discussion in that thread on that subject... i answered that already in there, though I'm not RED... all that had been confirmed.

i'm about 100% sure. the redmote (and redmote pro) wheel are designed exactly for that. confirmed by RED. all three can be adjusted at the same time, via side handle, redmote(s), iphones, ring, etc. etc. confirmed by RED. and my understanding is you can set the preset buttons to whatever you want, so yes.

here's where discussion original discussion of the ring, and other things is still going on - http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=52962&page=18
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Truly...no offense, but your confirmation means as much as my confirmation...absolutely nothing. Please provide direct post links where Red answers any of the questions I have above. Until then, I hope someone from Red answers my simple questions.
 
i know, i know. none taken, but don't take any when i don't dig through a bunch of threads looking for those things... i'm going to have to get some sleep, otherwise i might think about it. but i'm telling you, i know, and i know you can't KNOW that i know, but i know i've heard those things from the REDsmen. if you really want to know, start looking through Jarred's posts, I remember a lot of those things coming from there, and look through that linked thread, I think Stuart or somebody talked a lot about those, and watch those videos of Tonaci's that reveal demonstration. best of luck! ;)
 
The comments I made in that post were all assembled from tidbits posted over the last year or so, mostly by Jarred, but also by Jim and a couple others. All things subject to change and all that. I'd like to see official confirmation as well, as I only stated it how I currently understand it all to work.
 
I had come to the same conclusions as Jeff from said tidbits over the past year or so, but as he said who knows we have yet to have confirmation, but I have to assume it's not as restrictive as some people seem to think it is.
 
My understanding is the same as Paul's, Jeff's et al but I am not RED, either, so it doesn't mean anything more. One way I approach the whole thing is just to recognize that the combined experience, knowledge, intelligence and design smarts of Jim, Jarred and the rest of the RED team combined, is probably slightly ahead of my own. :001_rolleyes:

So, I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt, at least for now, that feature set of the camera will be pretty well thought out. Sure, they have rushed this camera to market, right? :devil: So, they might have missed something, but I am just going sit tight for now.:thumbup:
 
Yeah, bottom line - the 8X fixed probably isn't going back to R&D. And I don't think it needs to. It's on a one way track to production, so we're really on a wait and see basis. I'd expect a good bit of detailed information and discussion in the near future.
 
Likely you wont see a reply from them with specifics because Sony, Canon, Panasonic, are all glued and would love to know as well...remember keep your friends closer but your competition closer, as i'm sure Jim doesn't consider Sony and the like enemies, just competition.
 
Barry Bishop said:
Likely you wont see a reply from them with specifics because Sony, Canon, Panasonic, are all glued and would love to know as well...remember keep your friends closer but your competition closer, as i'm sure Jim doesn't consider Sony and the like enemies, just competition.
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Except I didnt ask a big secret info, just absolute basic functionality on features that have long been announced...
 
It would make sense if you could configure the software settings in such a way that the redmote wheel would control one function (say zoom or focus) and the lens cog would control whatever you think the second most important one is for you.

Personally this doesn't bother me a whole lot, though it'll be inconvenient and annoying to have to constantly switch your presets via quick button to focus or zoom. But I wouldn't mind controlling zoom with the redmote and focusing manually or vice versa.
 
I'd assume the user buttons near the lens would be what is used to switch between different lens modes...

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Shawn Nelson said:
Except I didnt ask a big secret info, just absolute basic functionality on features that have long been announced...
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I'd say that basic necessary functionality goes without saying.
 
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