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Cyclone 600-2707

The fans are insanely loud and must be replaced!

I am planning to get the Atto R60F for in the Cyclone with 10x 2TB SATA drive raid 6, LTO-4, and Bluray burner all in the Cyclone.

I am putting the Cyclone in a different 4U case so everything fits better.

Atto is telling me the R60F will ship Sep 20. I start my next project Oct 11, so that is really tight schedule.

I am trying to decide if I should put the MXO2 and Qio PCIe cards in the Mac Pro or in the Cyclone. Seems like the Cyclone is the correct choice, but they are only 4x cards.


Dusty
 
@Tom - I've been told by someone at BMD that they're working on AJA support now, just as they said they would when I spoke with them at NAB. But I may still have to go with the Decklink card and see what comes along later. I want to have Resolve up and running by November, I've just been waiting for a few final pieces to fall into place.

Hmm... Maybe I'll just order the Cyclone without their case and put it in something else. I'm not wild about theirs. Especially if I already have to replace the fans with something decent.
 
Jeff, they wouldn't sell me the cyclone without the case.

This is the case I got:
http://rackmountmart.stores.yahoo.net/nerm4urachwi3.html

Similar to the one from Cyclone, but allows me to put in 10 drives, full height LTO-4, and Bluray burner. And it is a little short than the Cyclone case. I was trying to find a 3u case, but haven't found what I want yet.

Quite fans are cheap. I just want more drives inside.


Dusty
 
I left the Cyclone on all night with the system churning away at stuff. Motion crashed, but everything else is good. I am very happy with the Cyclone so far.

My only complaint is I don't like the case it comes in and the fans are insanely LOUD!!!! But that is an easy and cheap fix.


Dusty
 
Dustin Cross said:
I left the Cyclone on all night with the system churning away at stuff. Motion crashed, but everything else is good. I am very happy with the Cyclone so far.

My only complaint is I don't like the case it comes in and the fans are insanely LOUD!!!! But that is an easy and cheap fix.


Dusty
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I always replace RAID case fans with better ones to solve the noise issue but the fan for the power unit could still be the problem. I'd think you should get extenders and leave the CPU and the chassis somewhere else.
 
Update on the Cyclone 600-2707.

It is working great. I do have one problem. My Atto R60F has a conflict with the Cyclone. I am working with Atto and Cyclone to figure out which cards work and which don't. I might have to switch to an R30F, which wouldn't be bad.

Right now I am using my Rocketraid 2322 in the 600-2707 and it is working great.

Has anyone else taken the plunge?


Dusty
 
Dustin Cross said:
Update on the Cyclone 600-2707.

It is working great. I do have one problem. My Atto R60F has a conflict with the Cyclone. I am working with Atto and Cyclone to figure out which cards work and which don't. I might have to switch to an R30F, which wouldn't be bad.

Right now I am using my Rocketraid 2322 in the 600-2707 and it is working great.

Has anyone else taken the plunge?


Dusty
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Hey Dustin,

Thank you for the report. I guess the R6xx series might have some glitch since it's just out. R3xx series always worked fine with my Magma chassis except using with MacBook Pro via PCI Express route.
 
What sort of conflict do you have with the R60F? Does it work if installed in the tower and not in the Cyclone?
 
One of the engineers at iStoragePro I've been working with on my mobile rocket raid said the 6G cards are having some issues. Don't have any specifics but that would be true to the statement. I also bought an OWC/Newertech 2 port eSata card and it doesn't seem to talk to my computer as well as other cards--icon doesn't load completely with eSata logo and I have to retry connecting the hard drives a couple times before they mount.
 
The R644 that I've been testing is working fine in the Mac Pro at least.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
What sort of conflict do you have with the R60F? Does it work if installed in the tower and not in the Cyclone?
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Jeff,

The R60F gets some sort of bus reset and locks up. It works great for a random amount of time. Sometimes five seconds, sometimes 30 minutes. Also when it locks up it sometimes looses drives. After a reboot it sees the drive again, but still needs a multi hour rebuild.

It won't work in a Mac Pro with the Cyclone attached. Works as soon as I remove the Cyclone card.

Plus it gets HOT! In my Mac Pro tower in a room with AC keeping in around 70F, the card over heats and locks up after about 90 min of use. Gets to 65C and stops. It really needs fans to cool it. Right now I have the case open with a fan blowing directly on the R60F to keep it running. Not something I want to take on set. I need to look more into replacing the two small heatsinks with fans.

In short, I don't think the R60F is ready for primetime just yet.

A few hours today my cart was in 90F ambient. Everything kept right on working. Well, the Qio is flaky, but that doesn't have anything to do with heat.


Dusty
 
Hmmm... That doesn't sound good. I still haven't got to the purchase point yet, I'm waiting on a few other things to fall into place with the budget and whatnot here. But I'm planning to run an ATTO R680 in the same system as the Cyclone. It will be in the Mac tower. Looking at GTX285, Cyclone, ATTO R680, and BMD or AJA card in the tower. The expander is probably getting dual Rockets, a GT160 and an eSATA/SAS card -- the eSATA card will actually be an ATTO H344 (maybe H644) and I'll put an LTO-5 in the expansion chassis connected to it.. and run a mini-SAS to eSATA fan-out cable out for eSATA devices.

Thanks for the info... Keep us posted.
 
I am still waiting to hear from the guys at Cyclone if they have tested the R30F. If not, I guess I will just have to buy one and see. The R60F is going back. I just need to find a replacement.

What are you doing on the Mac that will use two Rockets?


Dusty
 
Dustin Cross said:
I am still waiting to hear from the guys at Cyclone if they have tested the R30F. If not, I guess I will just have to buy one and see. The R60F is going back. I just need to find a replacement.
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Looking back on your comments, I guess I'm wondering if you have tried replacing your R60F? The heat issues seem to point to another problem and possible reasons for the failure more than a conflict.

What are you doing on the Mac that will use two Rockets?
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Faster processing. Dual streams for 3D... That's the plan anyway, but the software still needs to catch up a bit. Not sure if STORM supports multiple Rockets yet...
 
I haven't tried a different R60F yet.

The guys at Cyclone said they have one other customer trying to use the R60F and having problems too. I am sending info to both Atto and Cyclone to see if there is a fix.

The problem I am having is not heat related. I opened the Cyclone enclosure and pointed an AC vent directly at the R60F and monitored the cards temp while I did test and it stayed well below the recommended 39C. Could just be a faulty card, but it works fine without the Cyclone.

They said several customers are using the R30F with no problems.

Atto tech support said they have lots of customers with heat problems and they recommend mounting a fan in the enclosure just to cool the R60F.


Dusty
 
Dustin Cross said:
Do you have a Cyclone connected to the system with the R644?


Dusty
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Sorry Dustin, I missed this post.

I just wanted to clarify others that 6G based AtTO is working with Mac Pro alone. I know you are keen with all of these.

I think I'm going to get the Cyclone, too, it's just matter of few weeks I think. Anyways, thank you for all of your valuable posts.
 
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