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many cameras with HDR in 2011

Zakaree Sandberg

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I was listening to leo laporte today on KFI, and he was talking about a canon 5d rig that some guys built that shoots HDR.. havent seen it yet.. but he was also talking about how he believes that in 2011 there will be MANY camera companies with video HDR.. so looks like there will be competition in that dept.
 
It is possible that many companies have been working on the tech and we will start to see the first products released in 2011 but it probably won't be anything polished.
My guess is it would be much like the 5D rig where it has an interesting look but far from perfect.
 
Zakaree Sandberg said:
I was listening to leo laporte today on KFI, and he was talking about a canon 5d rig that some guys built that shoots HDR.. havent seen it yet.. but he was also talking about how he believes that in 2011 there will be MANY camera companies with video HDR.. so looks like there will be competition in that dept.
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If it's the video that has been doing the rounds, it's not a camera that does HDR, it's just two cameras on a mirror rig. You can do that with any camera, and if it's the video that is doing the rounds at the moment, it looks terrible if you were to use it for anything other than an extreme look of tone mapping, especially for longer takes the footage would gradually fall out of sync (no genlock).
 
The question is... do you need two cameras or one?

Jim
 
There are a lot of claims to "HDR" which really just amount to a poor tonemapping operator. Our approach is different in that it offers a true extension of the recorded dynamic range, on a single camera.

Graeme
 
Graeme Nattress said:
There are a lot of claims to "HDR" which really just amount to a poor tonemapping operator. Our approach is different in that it offers a true extension of the recorded dynamic range, on a single camera.

Graeme
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Is that aimed at Panasonic?

I'm sure you know how Panasonic achieve their goal. It does increase DR and can look superb. Obviously not 18 stops... but it seems to gain 2-3 extra stops... for 2 year old technology, that is impressive.
 
Panasonic

Panasonic

No, we have a lot of respect for Panasonic and the products they have offered the industry.

But what we are saying is our technique is very different, and that it truly expands the captured Dynamic Range.
 
Jim Retar said:
The Panasonic range have a HDR type mode (Dynamic Range Stretcher). Works out for some situations... like outdoor shooting in the day.
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DRS is hardly HDR. It only works in certain situations, as you pointed out, and at most you will get 1 to 1.5 stops highlight protection. Which gets 9-10 stops to 10-11 (HMC150). Very useful though it may be for a prosumer camera, it is hardly 16-18 stops, which is HDR region.
 
Jannard said:
The question is... do you need two cameras or one?

Jim
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EXACTLY! so far you have the court in this one!

the other companies will be utilizing a 2 camera design..
RED might be the only one who have figured out the 1 Camera system..

and for high end professional work.. im pretty sure EPIC will be the choice camera..
 
As Stuart says, we have a lot of respect for Panasonic engineering. Reading up on their DRS the description I found was "DRS recognizes the average brightness of highlight and shadow areas and then automatically adjusts the aperture and uses knee control to suppress blocking in the shadow areas. In scenes with mixed dark and light areas, such as when moving from indoors to outdoors, DRS automatically provides a wider dynamic range with minimal blown highlights and blocked shadows. ", which is not a description of an HDR technique, more more of a method of adjusting the gamma curve based on scene information. That's clever enough in itself, especially when not recording RAW, but it doesn't sounds like HDR to me.

What we are doing is fundamentally different.

Graeme
 
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