Burning Blu-Rays

[zak forrest]

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[LeeArcher1]

Use toast.
Burn a bluray file directly onto a dvd disc - works great on bluray players.
You can only do about 15mins of bluray though.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Yep, Toast. Or Adobe Encore.

 

[Erich Ocean]

So you are saying that I don't need a blu ray burner if its just a music video (5 mins) ? and i can use dvd-r instead of blu ray disc?

Yes to both.

 

[Paul Nordin]

how do i make the blu ray file that i burn with toast?

Best choice for making reasonably sophisticated BR - Encore
For making somewhat functional multi-menu BR - Toast
For making quick screeners with a main menu and stereo audio - Compressor

- Toast, you can create the renders in Compressor using the BR settings.
- Encore, at least for me its best to let Encore do the encode
- Compressor, its a one step process using the job-action template

 

[Rainer Fritz]

24p Blu-Ray....

So we shot in 24p WS. When I export a 24p/1080 Letterbox QT, Toast makes a 59,94 i Blu-Ray.
Can anybody explain a 24p Blu-Ray Workflow?
Is it enough to encode in H264 or MPEG2 in 24p and burning it with toast to get a real 24p disc????

thx for any Hints.....
Rainer

 

[Raul Gonzo]

Yes to both.

Is that only with Toast? I haven't been able to get Encore to make a Blu-ray on a DVD. It won't allow it without detecting the Blu-ray burner. What are the steps in Encore?

 

[Erich Ocean]

24p Blu-Ray....

So we shot in 24p WS. When I export a 24p/1080 Letterbox QT, Toast makes a 59,94 i Blu-Ray.
Can anybody explain a 24p Blu-Ray Workflow?
Is it enough to encode in H264 or MPEG2 in 24p and burning it with toast to get a real 24p disc????

Using Compressor and bringing the results into Toast should work.

 

[Erich Ocean]

Is that only with Toast? I haven't been able to get Encore to make a Blu-ray on a DVD. It won't allow it without detecting the Blu-ray burner. What are the steps in Encore?

In Encore, write to a "Blu‑ray Image" and then burn the resulting image to a DVD-R (not sure if you can use Encore for that part -- probably not). If you're on Windows, ImgBurn is a good choice for burning to DVD-R.

 

[Raul Gonzo]

In Encore, write to a "Blu‑ray Image" and then burn the resulting image to a DVD-R (not sure if you can use Encore for that part -- probably not). If you're on Windows, ImgBurn is a good choice for burning to DVD-R.

(I,m rockin a mac)
I'll give it a try- thanks

 

[Luis Otero]

Toast do the magic 100%, and so beautiful...!!! Perfect BD burned on regular DVD-R. I use it for my clients, and they love the results, and me too. The colors and cadence are just exactly as you corrected. You will not regret it.

PS

You need to have their plug-in for HD to get the results we are talking about.

 

[John Marchant]

The 'share' function in Final Cut Pro is good for one-off blurays on DVD-R as well. Very simplistic, but it works. (Essentially a friendly shortcut to the compressor workflow)

 

[Tony Bacak]

follow these steps

http://www.kenstone.net/fcp_homepage/burn_br_mac_superdrive_stone.html

it is easy like that
let the coding complete and all running smooth.
who sad fcp is old . . .
best ones from here

 

[Lauri Kettunen]

What is the maximum bit rate one can choose in Adobe Encore? And would you choose mpeg2 or H264?

 

[Tyrone Braithwaite]

I can't speak specifically for the mac but there are data rate restrictions creating a blu-ray spec on dvd with both mp2 and avc-hd. To that end the quality you get when producing a full 30 mb avc-hd will easily surpass the quality you will achieve on dvd. I gave up on these dvds and opted for bd-re for my test-beds.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

There are technically no data restrictions in creating BD or HD discs using standard DVD media. That really comes down to limitations of individual players. And it's a guessing game if you're giving these discs to people. If you encode for a bit-rate of more than about 15Mbps, you're going to be asking for trouble if you want everyone to be able to watch them. Older BD players or some cheaper/off-brand players typically don't fare as well here. If you can burn to BD media, you'll be better off. BD-RE is the way to go if you know you will get your discs back. OTOH, 10Mbps h.264 should play fine from standard DVD media in just about any Blu-Ray player, so.... And even at the lower bit-rate, h.264 or AVC compression will give better results than 720x480 DVD.

The solution out of Compressor works OK for burning to standard DVD. And using Compressor to create Blu-Ray compliant h.264 files tends to give better quality at times than trying to compress through Encore. Although, I think encoding from R3D to BD out of AME, Premiere or AE is superior to FCP / Compressor due to the superior R3D support -- at this time.

AVC and h.264 are the better codecs to use. MPEG2 is best left for DVD...

 

[Alex MacLean]

I usually burn one straight out of final cut, or compressor using a standard DVD encoded in AVCHD. here's a good book that will answer a lot of questions about blu-ray:

http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Path-Blu...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1283827448&sr=8-1

 

[Rainer Fritz]

In Encore I can only choose a 23,976 project no 24 project.
If encoding to H264 there is always this gamma shift problem you have to deal with when encoding with compressor. Anybody encoding with Sorenson 5 or 6 ??
I will give a 24p H264 encoding a chance and see what toast is doing then with it (recoding is switched off at toast).

 

[Luis Ortiz]

I purchased Toast 10 to make DVDs for Blu-Ray players and I keep coming up with two of the following problems:

1. With QT H.264 files from compressor, Toast doesn't allow me to burn Blu-Ray onto a DVD. I get a message that reads, "could not record, result code 18771" (I placed a service ticket with Roxio, yesterday, still waiting)

2. With HD H.264 from compressor and even x264 from FCP, Toast 10 allows me to burn Blu-Ray onto a DVD, but when I play back the DVD from a blu-ray player, the video is displayed on the top half of the TV screen, distorted.

I am able to burn regular DVDs from Toast 10, but that's not what I bought the program for. How are you guys, using Toast, making it work?

 

[Luis Ortiz]

I purchased Toast 10 to make DVDs for Blu-Ray players and I keep coming up with two of the following problems:

1. With QT H.264 files from compressor, Toast doesn't allow me to burn Blu-Ray onto a DVD. I get a message that reads, "could not record, result code 18771" (I placed a service ticket with Roxio, yesterday, still waiting)

2. With HD H.264 from compressor and even x264 from FCP, Toast 10 allows me to burn Blu-Ray onto a DVD, but when I play back the DVD from a blu-ray player, the video is displayed on the top half of the TV screen, distorted.

I am able to burn regular DVDs from Toast 10, but that's not what I bought the program for. How are you guys, using Toast, making it work?

I got no response from Roxio so I have returned Toast 10 for a refund. It didn't work for me.