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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

DSLR Arguement=funny

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Sanjin Jukic said:
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Sanjin, you want the guy walking with one of these in the subway?!

You'll get him arrested for terrorism. I can almost confuse this for an AT-4.

:rofl:
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
It seems that is a snap-on PL, meaning one that mounts like any Canon lens would.
Try comparing the rears of the Ultras to some of those zooms listed. Looks promising.

If you tape everything but the scales on the UPs it will help tone them down.
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Believe me you aren't going to get that eBay adapter to work with ultraprimes. Mr uhry's lomos work because they were designed originally with a longer flange - like Panavision. Ultraprimes need not only the mirror to be removed but the body to be hollowed. It's a SERIOUS operation. Ask pawel achtel. He's the original pioneer. HotRod Cameras does it right and so does fgv for like twice the price. This is totally a rental situation, as committing to one of these is a waste of money.
 
Pietro Impagliazzo said:
Sanjin, you want the guy walking with one of these in the subway?!

You'll get him arrested for terrorism. I can almost confuse this for an AT-4.

:rofl:
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You don't need tele lens for subways shots but more like a wide angle new Sigma 8-16mm

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Shot on 7D with Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 @ 8mm.

Dan Kanes said:
Believe me you aren't going to get that eBay adapter to work with ultraprimes.
Mr uhry's lomos work because they were designed originally with a longer flange - like Panavision.
Ultraprimes need not only the mirror to be removed but the body to be hollowed. It's a SERIOUS operation.
Ask pawel achtel. He's the original pioneer. HotRod Cameras does it right and so does fgv for like twice the price.
This is totally a rental situation, as committing to one of these is a waste of money.
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There is one good PL mount that works properly with Ultraprimes:

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You can rented 7D with FGV PL7D mount custom installed at Band Pro or Otto Nemenz in LA.
 
Isn't one of the main selling points of the whole 4/3" design from Panasonic that it has crazy thin flange, allowing mounts for any lens out there to be manufactured?

But even if UPs work on 7Ds, Id look at it this way. Shooting a sequence on a 7D is already a big IQ compromise, so why not look at a GH1 which isn't much worse and get the full benefit that is required? An invisible camera that lets you do anything you might need as easily as possible. The swivel screen is being underrated.

Shawn will likely avoid the external monitor, so the option (7D) is a camera with a screen that will be fixed on the back side. This little swivel screen would bring heaps of options to the table, and coupled with the size of the camera itself it might help create a distinct style that helps justify the dive in IQ from the rest of the film.

But, the 7D does have more DR I think, even if not a whole lot more, and it does have less jello effect which might be the deciding factor depending on the material (you said something about a fight right?).
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
But, the 7D does have more DR I think, even if not a whole lot more, and it does have less jello effect which might be the deciding factor depending on the material (you said something about a fight right?).
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You're saying compared to the GH1? I was told jello was the same as the 7D.

Hasn't researched about DR yet...
 
I am not sure how much DR difference there is, but I am pretty sure the 7D has a little bit more. The does 7D have less jello than the GH1 though. But it might not matter, depending on the material and style intended.
 
I was thinking about jello (I thought the scaling/downsampling was better with the hacked firmware, but haven't come around testing it yet) Really HATED working with 5D...
 
Dan Kanes said:
Believe me you aren't going to get that eBay adapter to work with ultraprimes. Mr uhry's lomos work because they were designed originally with a longer flange - like Panavision. Ultraprimes need not only the mirror to be removed but the body to be hollowed. It's a SERIOUS operation. Ask pawel achtel. He's the original pioneer. HotRod Cameras does it right and so does fgv for like twice the price. This is totally a rental situation, as committing to one of these is a waste of money.
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I agree that spending serious money on a DSLR is foolish. In a year or so I'll salvage the parts and put it on the next DSLR. Most of the camera companies noticed canon was selling many 5d Mk2's for video and are launcing me too products.

PL mount made sense for me because I've got lots of both quality and interesting oddball PL glass to put to use.

Wait until you see what's coming soon. All sorts of large sensor pro-sumer gear ( other companies than Red ) is on the way, some of it very "any lens you want" friendly due to highly adaptable lens mounts. Fun times for lens hackers.

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com
 
Thanks everyone - I will not be purchasing any of the mentioned cameras but rather renting one... The Epic is coming and I don't want the hassle of selling the GH1 or whichever...

Jello, yeah... Static shots mostly, some hand held - will test to see what works and what doesn't...

I do like the options available and yes, Roberto, the GH1's swivel screen is a really nice feature and allows a lot.
 
Shawn Booth said:
DSLR Producer

Sums it up nicely... hehehehe

Admittedly though, I am considering using a DSLR to shoot covertly on an upcoming short... Need to shoot on/in a subway and don't want to go the correct and safe routes of permitting...

Anyone know someone with a 5D/7D with PL mount for rent (LA area)?
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We used a tiny "lapel cam" in the same way. But... I am not rushing out to shoot a feature on my lapel cam.
 
Shawn Booth said:
Anson - I hate the EX series and it's not small enough. It looks like a video camera. No one is going to stop me with "a regular still camera". (I also hate recording sound to the camera... Mixer will record separately and we will sync in post. Using lavs, no boom...)

To all worried about "slapping a cine lens on" - Ultra Primes are pretty compact. I am totally against using still lenses for motion work anyhow.

I won't be using an AC. Guerilla is bigger than what I'm trying to accomplish. Stealth and covert are more like it...

Shawn - I'm sure you have seen more ridiculous things than a DSLR with a PL mount... At least I hope your life is full of things that would constitute as more ridiculous... (Like putting still lenses on the R1?)

Ryan - RED slam... it is a reality to some people. I can't worry about peoples' opinions about the camera... It was still funny though.


I am also playing with my R1 configurations, body positions while sitting and camo for camera... Thinking of LapPod in a backpack...
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Actually, we use Canon still lenses with a Birger, and fail to see much difference at any level to most Cine lenses, anamorphics excluded of course. You get awesome mechanics (you can control focus change speed via a button), awesome optics on the best Ls (sharpness, color rendition...) and your rig is way lighter. We laugh all the way to the bank.
 
Roberto Lequeux said:
Here is a better example of the hacked GH1 skew: http://vimeo.com/12580973

I'd say it is almost close enough to ignore it as a factor.
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Yup, looks good, but for one thing I'd like to see...

A"bump" where the camera is moved quickly up/down/up with deep focus, like when you hit a bump in the road....

Also wood be nice to see some charts shot with this, but it def looks a lot better than 5d mII
 
Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 rocks as a widest lens offer for S35 sized sensors like a RED1-MX or 7D that are both about equivalent to 12-24mm on FF35.

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The Heineken, a cold beer, shot today, Sunday, August 1 at my Ibiza house pool on 7D with Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6.

Tomorrow this gorgeous wide angle zoom lens is gonna work on Epic and Scarlet :hurray:
 
Gunleik Groven said:
Yup, looks good, but for one thing I'd like to see...

A"bump" where the camera is moved quickly up/down/up with deep focus, like when you hit a bump in the road....
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Yup... +1

I despise DSLRs and other slow read CMOS cameras for this more than anything else. Even more so that the moire some of these cameras add.

Motion is like bread!

I am really excited about RED's read reset getting so low, already virtually identical to a film shutter.
 
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