Noise Reduction + ISO in CS5 Premiere?

[Tom Lowe]

I have some low-light footage I shot at ISO 1600.

1. In CS5, should I use ISO (1600) or FLUT to get the proper exposure?

2. What noise reduction can I use in Premiere Pro CS5? Is there any native NR in the demosaicing stage? I don't see noise reduction anywhere in the "Settings". What is currently the best option for noise reduction?

Thanks!

 

[Graeme Nattress]

ISO or FLUT - your choice. Both achieve same result.

Graeme

 

[Tom Lowe]

ISO or FLUT - your choice. Both achieve same result.

Graeme

Exactly the same?

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Precisely.

Graeme

 

[Tom Lowe]

Then why have two separate settings?

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Long story.....

Short version is that ISO is understood and is on light meters, and FLUT offers fully variable control and easy relative adjustments.

Graeme

 

[ericyoung]

Long story.....

Short version is that ISO is understood and is on light meters, and FLUT offers fully variable control and easy relative adjustments.

Graeme

I was rereading all about FLUT today and that was what I was wondering!! Glad I wasn't going nuts.


BTW. You didn't answer Tom's question about Noise Reduction while demosaicing.

 

[scott william]

how good is CS5 with the Flut control! just love working with r3d's in cs5.

 

[Steve Sherrick]

Long story.....

Short version is that ISO is understood and is on light meters, and FLUT offers fully variable control and easy relative adjustments.

Graeme

I'm most interested in the long story. :wink:

 

[Graeme Nattress]

A good single malt scotch and total secrecy is needed for the long story...

Graeme

 

[Steve Sherrick]

Done deal!

 

[Kim Frank]

But I'm sure I did read that FLUT adjusts the exposure without ever clipping the Highligts. And I also read the Instruction to first adjust the desired ISO and than use FLUT to fine tune. Again confusing to me that it's exactly the same.
Wasn't exposure and Brightness in RED ALERT the same aswell. Why having more Controls than necesary, if they're simply the same... hmmm...

 

[Curran Giddens]

But I'm sure I did read that FLUT adjusts the exposure without ever clipping the Highligts. And I also read the Instruction to first adjust the desired ISO and than use FLUT to fine tune. Again confusing to me that it's exactly the same.

That is what I thought as well. And it even seemed to be the case in practice.

Tom, you should check out ABSofts's Neat Video noise-reduction plugin. I got the version for AE and it works great.

 

[Kim Frank]

Oh yes of course, excuse me...
Neat Video... definetely!

 

[Paul Leeming]

What noise reduction can I use in Premiere Pro CS5? Is there any native NR in the demosaicing stage? I don't see noise reduction anywhere in the "Settings". What is currently the best option for noise reduction?

Thanks!

Hey Tom,

using the latest Red3Importer from Adobe Labs (which gives you build 30 colour science) there's a Chroma Denoise option in Source Settings in the Debayer box. That's what you're looking for I believe. It works just like the noise reduction function in RedCine-X.

HTH

Paul

 

[Uli Plank]

But for difficult footage Neatvideo is far better – and with enough RAM it's very stable even in 4K in CS5.

 

[Curran Giddens]

But for difficult footage Neatvideo is far better – and with enough RAM it's very stable even in 4K in CS5.

Yup. One reason I made the switch to Adobe. I wanted to be able to run Neat Video in 4K resolution. Can't do that in FCP.

 

[Tom Lowe]

But for difficult footage Neatvideo is far better – and with enough RAM it's very stable even in 4K in CS5.

Does it make a difference whether noise reduction is applied in the RAW/Demosaicing stage, or in the "RGB" timeline?

 

[Jim McKinney]

Glen Morangie port wood good enough?

 

[Mohammed El Sharqawy]

Does it make a difference whether noise reduction is applied in the RAW/Demosaicing stage, or in the "RGB" timeline?

mix both formulas to get best results..