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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

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Jim, so good to have you back on the board!

I'd like to share .....

"How I Spent My Summer Vacation", Mel Gibson's new movie just wrapped production last week.

Shot with RED MX's :) (Billy's #13, Manny's #41, Vlad's #87, and my #81)

It's a Beautiful RED world....

Thanks Jim!


sounds great cant wait to see it and congrats to you guys!!
 
Good stuff Rob. Many times I've had someone who has no idea what they're talking about tell me how long it should take to do something.

I used to tell staff who worked for me when they hear someone starting talking like that to watch out, red flags!

On the other hand, I have had developers try to tell the project manager that a particular piece of code would be either impossible to do or take months.

I have then coded it myself and given it to them within a couple of hours!
 
I sometimes think (and wish) that Red should have released their next camera between the Red & the Epic. Maybe not tried to take such a big step forward. Maybe an S35 with the new chip, more over-cranking, and in the small form-factor. Lose the stills integration and get the next one out faster. The technology they've developed is leaps and bounds ahead of the field. It would still be great great value. I'm not saying to aim lower, but to get the big broad stroke advancements into the market. They'd still lead the pack.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the difference between motion and stills with a raw camera like Red? Frame rate(slower is easier), shutter speeds(stills use a wider range typically) and flash sync.
Red 1 was stills capable from day one as there is no difference in image quality between a motion frame and a still frame. Not the most convenient form factor for stills, but as the Esquire shoots showed certainly capable.
The same is certainly not true of a hybrid DSLR where the video frame is far inferior to the still frame.
 
HDSLR community

HDSLR community

Hi gang...I'm "new" to posting here mostly because I'm not an owner and can't really speak to RED issues first hand, although I've been following RED, and the forum, for years.

I just wanted to say that while I agree that Jim's statement about being "embarrassed" is being taken out of context, there's a lot of thinly veiled contempt here for the HDSLR user-base which I think is unfortunate.

As I stated on the 5D forum, and elsewhere, there's plenty of "crap" shot on every format including RED. For the 20% that blows me away, 80% is underwhelming at best and that goes for RED, HDSLR, XDCAM, 35mm film or any other format. This isn't a debate about storytelling, and who does it better. It's about an acquisition medium. Unfortunately, in my opinion, users on both sides of the medium debate have forgotten this.
 
Made in the USA

Made in the USA

I support buying a camera made in the USA. I think I might even buy my next car that way too if I can. It's a big selling point for me.
 
Hi gang...I'm "new" to posting here mostly because I'm not an owner and can't really speak to RED issues first hand, although I've been following RED, and the forum, for years.

I just wanted to say that while I agree that Jim's statement about being "embarrassed" is being taken out of context, there's a lot of thinly veiled contempt here for the HDSLR user-base which I think is unfortunate.

As I stated on the 5D forum, and elsewhere, there's plenty of "crap" shot on every format including RED. For the 20% that blows me away, 80% is underwhelming at best and that goes for RED, HDSLR, XDCAM, 35mm film or any other format. This isn't a debate about storytelling, and who does it better. It's about an acquisition medium. Unfortunately, in my opinion, users on both sides of the medium debate have forgotten this.

OF COURSE content is the most important element. However, this forum is mostly about technique and technology.

I own a Red, two Sonys, and two Canons, and shoot with whatever is appropriate for the conditions.

Technically speaking, the Canons are a significant compromise; I use them only when portability is the prime consideration. This is not thinly veiled contempt - it is an honest and measurable evaluation of a tool. It is great for aspiring filmmakers to have such an affordable option, but for high end professional use, that codec is just butt-ugly.
 
Also... thanks to all the have shown concern for my health issues. They seem to be resolved. I'm getting old. But not too old to finish this job right. Any minor legacy I might have depends on EPIC and Scarlet being released properly. :-)

Jim

You already have quite a legacy Mr. Jannard... and not a minor one. :)

-michael zaletel
 
I just wanted to say that while I agree that Jim's statement about being "embarrassed" is being taken out of context, there's a lot of thinly veiled contempt here for the HDSLR user-base which I think is unfortunate.

As I stated on the 5D forum, and elsewhere, there's plenty of "crap" shot on every format including RED. For the 20% that blows me away, 80% is underwhelming at best and that goes for RED, HDSLR, XDCAM, 35mm film or any other format. This isn't a debate about storytelling, and who does it better. It's about an acquisition medium. Unfortunately, in my opinion, users on both sides of the medium debate have forgotten this.

I dont think it has at all been taken "out of context."

DSLR wannabe filmmakers

I'm pretty sure this is exactly what he meant without saying those particular words. If not, I'm sure this would have been clarified shortly after the uproar.


Everyone one of those whiners will buy a Scarlet when it ships. Mark my words... as Jim said, they are aiming for the FUTURE. not today.

Extremely untrue. DSLRs ARE taking over the indy market and beyond. """Jim's market.""" He knows it. They know it. We see it. They are taking jobs away from even Reds as I've seen posted right here on this forum. Imagine that... If I were Jim, I'd probably be pissed too, but making the shiniest toy doesnt mean all the kids want to play with it. And kicking ""future"" customers" in the crotch does not win loyalty. These are elementary "playground rules" but maybe you dont learn that in business school.
 
Fuel for the fire

Fuel for the fire

This ought to stir the pot a little:

I'm very happy with the Foxconn news. The ability of the US to export our heavy manufacturing to China merely moves the impacts, both environmental and social, to a place with much weaker regulation. Our planet is going to drown under the weight of Chinese industry. It is great that the playing field is beginning to level. It's great that Epic will be made here.

On a personal level, I hope Scarlet doubles in price and takes a really long time, because it's release will tank the rental rates for Epic.

On the other hand, Jim takes his promises very seriously, so I imagine this won't happen. At some point, Scarlet will be competing with Nikon and Canon, and Red will have to use the same manufacturing chain price advantages to stay close. Currently the Scarlet image is so superior the market position is clear, but if the DSLR's figure out RAW, it could get interesting.
 
I'm all for the Scarlet but we all have been waiting forever for it now. I in the meantime purchased a DSLR. If RED were able to produce a product in that price range...even 500-1000 more than my 7D, I would gladly buy it. Instead even the Fixed Scarlet is set at a price point thats almost double. The only way that I think the Scarlet is going to be able to compete with the DSLR's is if the price is lowered.
 
This ought to stir the pot a little:

On a personal level, I hope Scarlet doubles in price and takes a really long time, because it's release will tank the rental rates for Epic.

That's a pretty crap attitude. I'm amazed how people have this attitude because they have a Red first and no-one can have one...unfortunately, that's not the case. You are like the old times boys group...you cannot afford it, you can't be a filmmaker. Shame that you do have the negativity toward a camera. You may need counseling. Jim & co build a camera for everyone to use and place great talent and skill on the same playing field like the big boys. Its just a format...that's all...but darn still amazes me that you & probably other Redheads here have this honor and attitude because you have a got a R1 and now upgraded to a Epic.

I don't know how Scarlet would double in price because its made in US...sure I would understand Scarlet may cost more...but double seemed a bit high.

Also, Epic will not tank because of Scarlet. Epic is a far superior camera...to compare it to Scarlet. Like comparing the Canon VSLR to R1 again...oh boy, here we go...!!! Sad thing is that some 12 year old girl is going to have this camera - Scarlet and kick your %^& and win an Oscar & more awards then you ever will and Kudos to her. Much like Francis Ford Coppola once predicted. You will still be negative and make up some story that's why she won or something.

You must of be pissed about this headline:

TINY FURNITURE, one of the first feature films shot on HD-SLR. It looks like an entertaining film. It recently won the Jury Prize for Best Narrative Feature at South by Southwest Film Festival using Canon's 7D camera.
 
Sad thing is that some 12 year old girl is going to have this camera - Scarlet and kick your %^& and win an Oscar & more awards then you ever will and Kudos to her. Much like Francis Ford Coppola once predicted. You will still be negative and make up some story that's why she won or something.

You must of be pissed about this headline:

TINY FURNITURE, one of the first feature films shot on HD-SLR. It looks like an entertaining film. It recently won the Jury Prize for Best Narrative Feature at South by Southwest Film Festival using Canon's 7D camera.

You can win millions of festivals and still not be commercially successful, if this is a profession and not a hobby commercial success is key. I dont think anything shot by a 12 year old is going to be commercially successful, apart from the few ultra low budget indys that the studios decide to promote every few years to show their street cred.
 
Extremely untrue. DSLRs ARE taking over the indy market and beyond. """Jim's market.""" He knows it. They know it. We see it. They are taking jobs away from even Reds as I've seen posted right here on this forum. Imagine that... If I were Jim, I'd probably be pissed too, but making the shiniest toy doesnt mean all the kids want to play with it. And kicking ""future"" customers" in the crotch does not win loyalty. These are elementary "playground rules" but maybe you dont learn that in business school.

I'm all for the Scarlet but we all have been waiting forever for it now. I in the meantime purchased a DSLR. If RED were able to produce a product in that price range...even 500-1000 more than my 7D, I would gladly buy it. Instead even the Fixed Scarlet is set at a price point thats almost double. The only way that I think the Scarlet is going to be able to compete with the DSLR's is if the price is lowered.

Scarlet and Red have no need to compete directly with DSLR's for the bottom of the market. They are great tools for students, photo journalists, and no budget indies and for limited niche applications in professional markets where the size and form factor or project budgets, or currently faddish obsession with shallow DOF outweigh all other considerations of image quality. They are just barely "good enough".
Scarlet will still be an exceptional value in a truly flexible,practical, no compromise motion picture camera when it appears even if it is not an affordable alternative for some of us.
 
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