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Okay, I need some examples of the best Stop Motion effects you have EVER seen. I am not looking for wallace and gromit, but stop motion mixed with live action. The more realistic the better. Please take the time to point me in a direction, if you know of any truly fantastic examples. Thanks and opine away
 
No one? seriously? Although this tells me i was right to be skeptical, i thought there would at least be a couple decent attempts.
 
Since it´s not a Red Specific Question, you might want to try it in the "Cinematography" subforum.

Tim Burtons "Corps Bride" comes into my mind, but i think there were no live elements in it.
Another great stop motion video is this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0LtUX_6IXY

I love it :)

Manuel
 
Manuel, thanks that was pretty entertaining...

Mark, That was the feeling I had.

Noah, hahaha thanks, point taken... but i was looking for peoples opinions not a list of films.

Nick, thanks

Basically, I have a guy trying to convince me that stop motion will look as good as motion control.... Which I whole heartedly disagree with... in the context of the project of course. So basically i was looking to see if anyone could give me one solid solid example where you could not tell stop motion from live action... judging from the relatively few responses i got, I think i have my answer... this should help me sway the producer. Thanks
 
Stop motion vs. Motion Control... hmm how would that be exactly? Are you trying to animate a dragon flying or a spaceship or a character? Those are two less used effects techniques for wildly different purposes. Motion control is typically used to film multiple live action passes- for example making one actor look like several i.e. The Nutty Professor. Or for filming multiple passes on spaceship models for vfx.

Stop motion animation is for frame by frame animating things with moving parts like characters. But generally speaking most things you could do with stop motion you can do a lot better and more simply with CG animation. Of course everyone is always all thinking analog is better and all that jazz but it's only better if the planning is really solid and the person doing the stop motion animation really knows their s. It's a lot easier to get a passable looking shot in CG than with older VFX techniques. But anyways it's hard to give more concrete advise without knowing more what you're trying to do.

Can motion control look great- sure. Can stop motion look great- sure. So can CG, performance capture, 3D,etc.

Noah
 
Just wanted to point out that stop motion animation and motion control are used together in combination quite frequently. Look at all of Henry Selick's films .... I had the pleasure of serving as an AC on "James and the Giant Peach" and all the camera movement in the movie was accomplished with motion control rigs with animators manipulating the characters using stop motion animation. I understand in Coraline they used motion control to execute the stereo base pairs for 3D as well. As far as mixing stop-motion/go-motion with live action... there's always Harryhausen's original
"Clash of the Titans" also the dragon scenes in "Dragonslayer" were go-motion mixed with live action. I think these still hold up and serve as pretty great examples.
 
The slit-scan sequences in 2001 are essentially stop motion timed exposures.
 
Thanks everyone... Yes CG is the easiest method. Unfortunately out of the budget of this particular film. We are basically shooting jets flying through the sky above city buildings. Although many examples for stop motion were presented, All of which were excellent, none are particularly good at combining live action in such away as to make it convincingly NOT stop motion.... To be clear, Army of darkness was one of my favourite movies. But the stop motion is still more funny than it is invisible... pure animated movies like James and the Giant Peach are fantastic, but not the look we are going for... essentially we want the smooth motion of the tie fighters in star wars.... except in jet form on earth. Thanks Everybody for your input... I appreciate the feedback.... learning art forms that are dying slowly is kinda fun. but i had a strong opinion about using stop motion where it doesn't belong, and to be fair i wanted to see if anyone could present me with a case where i would be absolutely stunned that something was actually stop motion. Having said that.. maybe i am gonna buy some clay... :)
 
That was the best stop motion i have ever seen.... and highly entertaining... particularly the bruce lee iron man one... very very well done.
 
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