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    Oh Oh 8K Do We Really Need More Than 4K?


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    https://www.cined.com/oh-oh-8k-do-we...-more-than-4k/

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    My comment in the video:

    As one of the creators whose work is featured here I would safely say from a cinematic perspective, specifically with the source material, it bothers me more that you put 24fps content into 30fps timeline, which is one of the reasons the motion cadence doesn't match. That should bother you more than 2K versus 4K versus 8K versus any K :)
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    Brilliant video! A lot of work went into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Holland View Post
    My comment in the video:

    As one of the creators whose work is featured here I would safely say from a cinematic perspective, specifically with the source material, it bothers me more that you put 24fps content into 30fps timeline, which is one of the reasons the motion cadence doesn't match. That should bother you more than 2K versus 4K versus 8K versus any K :)

    Phil,

    I thought that Art work looked familiar! Yeah, I think the topics that the CineD Article brings up will continue to resurface time and time again. But I do agree that 8k can't only be marketed as for just better reframing capabilities in post. Emphasize the Downsampling and Debayering properties of a 8K image to 4 or 2K. And if you're going to push 8K, push 8k not how 8k can look at 4K with different strengths of softening duffusion. Then just shoot 4K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remington Chase View Post
    Brilliant video! A lot of work went into that.
    $202,000,000.02 budget right there.


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    Phil,

    I thought that Art work looked familiar!
    Yep, came up on my flagged copyright notice on YouTube, sadly they cropped the watermark out as well as not credited the usage in the piece.

    But I like the humor in it. Would be nice though considering to at a minimum credit the work somewhere. *cough*


    On a more humorous and somewhat useful one. If you do find yourself London, England with an itch to admire the works found in the National Portrait Gallery and stumble upon The Fighting Temeraire by Joseph Mallord William Turner I find it's most enjoyable to look at from about 6 feet or 1.8 meters. I'd say the average viewing range for most visitors floats in the 4-8 foot range before resting your butt on the bench.

    And if you want to avoid the flight you can view the painting here:
    https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/p...ting-temeraire

    Conveniently documented in high resolution to enjoy it as if you were there to a moderate extent.
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    Yep, came up on my flagged copyright notice on YouTube, sadly they cropped the watermark out as well as not credited the usage in the piece.
    Well that was a "Dick Move"!

    $202,000,000.02 budget right there.
    Probably more like $20, but that did take some skill to do.


    And if you want to avoid the flight you can view the painting here:
    https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/p...ting-temeraire
    And thanks for Art link!
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    Another common argument is the ability to reframe any shot in post production. But why would you want to do that? To really make use of this “feature”, you would have to frame your shots in strange ways to allow for reframing later.
    "Strange ways." Are these people retarded?
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    Karim,

    I think the " Strange Ways" description was just a poor choice of words by them to describe composing shots to allow for the maximum reframing possibilities in post.
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    Had a chat with Paul and he did actually add credit for the source material. Just making that known here.

    I'm happy with this video, more with a cheeky grin than anything.
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    Well that's good then Phil.
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