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    I'm looking to shoot some extreme closeups on a Helium body, magnification more in the 2x-5x range. Wondering if anyone has any personal experience they can share on combinations of lens / extender / diopter that work great for them. Was thinking about using an Optimo 12x 24-290 with extender and diopter to get some extreme closeups at full resolution. Maybe 100mm master prime with 2x extender to get 2x at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Desiderio View Post
    I'm looking to shoot some extreme closeups on a Helium body, magnification more in the 2x-5x range. Wondering if anyone has any personal experience they can share on combinations of lens / extender / diopter that work great for them. Was thinking about using an Optimo 12x 24-290 with extender and diopter to get some extreme closeups at full resolution. Maybe 100mm master prime with 2x extender to get 2x at least.
    So are you looking to have the subject 2-5x bigger on the image plane that it is in real life?... if so I think you should consider a specialist macro setup

    If you need to get close to 5x maybe like this https://www.infinity-usa.com/robusto-series/ you will need to light to nearly T45 to get its best image but since it is based of a micro scope it can get that close..

    Or using a eos mount there is a super macro canon 65mm that is both fun and good

    If not as close (say closer to 2x) maybe a master macro and a set of master diopters...

    Ps or perhaps you mean the subject is half or less size?
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    The Canon 65mm macro explorer is a lot of fun to use. Take care you don't get bitten by all the tiny critters you can chase with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Desiderio View Post
    I'm looking to shoot some extreme closeups on a Helium body, magnification more in the 2x-5x range. Wondering if anyone has any personal experience they can share on combinations of lens / extender / diopter that work great for them. Was thinking about using an Optimo 12x 24-290 with extender and diopter to get some extreme closeups at full resolution. Maybe 100mm master prime with 2x extender to get 2x at least.
    Hello Michael,

    We (LAOWA) do offer a wide variety of macro lenses depending on your needs.

    The 24mm probe lens is of course one of the most popular one with full frame coverage and able to deliver a 2x magnification and wide angle macro perspective.

    If you want something easier to handle, you may wanna take a look at our 15mm f/4 Wide Angle Macro, the world's WIDEST 1:1 macro lens. It can focus at ANY distance. From the ant on your front element to the mountain 100km away (infinity). Our 100mm f/2.8 macro, instead, gives you a 2:1 magnification at telephoto distance.

    If you want something with higher magnification, our 25mm f/2.8 is your goto. It can acheive a maximum of 5:1 magnification. (2.5-5X)
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    Hi Kevin

    Sorry I forgot to mention your range of products.... I have both the 5mm f/4 Wide Angle Macro and the lowa probe in PL and it is a lot of fun. I would love 2 things! ... a mark 2 version of the 24mm: optics less yellow, slightly thinner and with no LED light!

    but 2nd how about a full on high performing probe system? ..... a range of lenses a 45degree atachment etc etc basiclly a replacment for the optex excellence?... bring it in for about 15k? or less?
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    I think youíll get a sharper image by using dedicated macro/probe lenses and cropping the 8K, rather than using extenders and diopters on the Optimo 12:1. While you may end up with an image with 8K pixel dimensions with the latter approach, the actual resolution will be much lower due to all the optical aberrations. I did some testing earlier this year for a project where we needed a macro eyeball shot, and the only lens that was sharp enough was the Zeiss Master Macro 100mm. The minute I added a diopter and/or extender to a telephoto zoom lens, the image fell apart. We couldnít crop much in post, due to shooting on an Alexa Mini. Luckily, the Helium is the perfect platform for high magnification cropping!

    One tool you might try that doesnít seem to soften the image is the Lindsey Optics Macro attachments: https://www.lindseyoptics.com/lenses...chment-lenses/

    Iíve only played with them at trade shows, but they were impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Lindsay View Post
    Hi Kevin

    Sorry I forgot to mention your range of products.... I have both the 5mm f/4 Wide Angle Macro and the lowa probe in PL and it is a lot of fun. I would love 2 things! ... a mark 2 version of the 24mm: optics less yellow, slightly thinner and with no LED light!

    but 2nd how about a full on high performing probe system? ..... a range of lenses a 45degree atachment etc etc basiclly a replacment for the optex excellence?... bring it in for about 15k? or less?

    Hi Michael,

    You may detach the waterproof tube on the probe and the tube will be thinner and no LED light :)

    Stay tuned for a high-end version :)
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    Shot these with the Laowa 2x-5x macro on my Red 6K and an iPhone flash light.
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    I tend to use a 135mm and extension bellows when I need to get extremely close. The challenge is in finding the sweet spot in iris where you have useable DOF, but aren't killing your image with diffraction either. I have also found it is wise to have lenses that are easy to disassemble and get to the internal elements as often dirt inside the lens becomes visible at such large magnification. Achromatic Diopters are also your friend.

    Dedicated macros will give you sharper images more hassle free, but they can only get you so close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_laowa View Post
    Hi Michael,

    You may detach the waterproof tube on the probe and the tube will be thinner and no LED light :)

    Stay tuned for a high-end version :)
    fantastic news!!!!!!
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