RED and Arri...

[Martin Stevens]

Originally Posted by Stephen Williams

I will use a beamsplitter, I don't need to reinvent the wheel just build an optical viewfinder.

Yes, sounds good.....BUT, a lot of light loss.....however, perhaps now this will not be a big issue given ISO 2000 etc.

[rod bradley]

Just to chime in the need for a Red OVF, as one who spent most of his life shooting via OVF, I'm very happy with Red's EVF (the old one) -- and the new one will be even better. Perhaps an OVF would give some who find change difficult a certain comfort level with what they're used to. But really, any advantages (and expense) are far out-weighed by even Red's original EVF, IMHO. Undoubtedly more so by the new "bomb" (so-called) EVF.

[Tom Lowe]

Originally Posted by M Most

I would humbly suggest waiting with such comparisons until the products actually exist. What one would want to compare would be the Alexa line with the Epic. That means there actually needs to be an Alexa and an Epic, not pre production, non-working prototypes.

I understand Jim's desire to have everyone stand up and take notice of the Mysterium X's capabilities, but I would also say that most people in the industry are already doing that. Since it will likely be more refined and have additional capabilities in the Epic line, it will be more directly comparable to what Arri is trying to do. There is little point in setting up any kind of formal comparison until both products are finished and in shipping condition. Testing prior to product completion and revealing those tests in public is part of what got Red in trouble with some of the mainstream industry early on. It is not fair or sensible to expect Arri to put themselves in a similar position.

Most does make a lot make sense in this case, IMHO.

[Stephen Williams]

Originally Posted by Martin Stevens

Yes, sounds good.....BUT, a lot of light loss.....however, perhaps now this will not be a big issue given ISO 2000 etc.

1/3 stop has never been a problem with a 1944 Mitchell I often use, I seldom use film faster than 250 ISO, MX is 800 ISO, it won't be a problem for me. I just want a OVF, simple & cheap soloution is fine.

[Jannard]

Allow me to wind this one down for now. I have great respect for Arri (own lots of Arri gear) and think the Alexa program will certainly deserve major consideration. We'll do the test so the industry has a clear understanding of the strengths of both systems when the cameras are production ready. That will be the most fair situation.

Until then... Thread Closed.

Jim