Calling Epson...

[Tim Whitcomb]

Originally Posted by c-well

Is there a Red Reel available in 4k??

LOL.

[Elmer Tenkink]

Forgive me for my English..not to spoil all the fun but isn' t this epson 4k lcd instead of dlp? More lumen but less contrast ratio. How about the colors?
BTW Philips has a watermark system that detects where a film (location time etc.) has been copied by any means (but it may be to expensive for the distributions company's). I used to be a operator at a movie theater. For the digital films a hard drive went sent by a courier and a limited key (by time and date) went sent by mail or usb stick.
I am not a red owners jet but i really wish to jump on that wagon as fast as it is possible for me.. Red does amazing stuff ...red ray 4k at 10 mb/sec AMAZING

[Scott Brown]

I seem to recall that there was some speculation in the past that RED would/could bring to market a 4K projector at a RED price point...sweet spot is circa $10-15K. I think there could be several thousand of us RED owners ready to buy at this price point.

Now if you can build a 4K camera from scratch, how difficult can a 4K projector be...Jim, we know you are well up for a challenge

Scott

[Blair S. Paulsen]

Anybody heard anything on the actual shipping of production run Epson 4K projectors?

Cheers - #19

[Michael Bravin]

Originally Posted by Joseph Hutson

They don't have the "everything is subject to change" do they? If so, it may be a 5K surprise when it comes out.

hangin with Sanjin again eh?

[Daniel Valle]

Originally Posted by Jeff Coatney

The potential is very exciting here. What I want to see is a robust system (suitable for light commercial installations) for a sub $10K price-point that delivers resolutions of 4K on down and 5.1 or better audio. Then we can see a very real "roadshow" business model develop for indie exhibition that bypasses traditional prints and advertising costs. This is what excites me about the Red Epic & Scarlet and that fantastic force-multiplier of Red Ray landing on the planet at the same time as affordable 4K projection. The opportunities for brick and mortar exhibition centers, mom & pop cinemas, temporary venues that serve a niche cinema audience is mind-boggling. Every town or village could have its own art house cinema or festival space. Then the economics can change for the filmmaker in a fundamental way, giving us regional documentaries, shorts, indie features that garner a share of the very local box office revenue. Imagine going to a Boston sports bar/ cinema for a film festival of 35mm 4K fan films about the Red Sox. The possibilities of expanding the communal cinema-going experience is huge. No longer is the filmmaker tethered to the studio wide-release behemoth as the only viable audience venue. Go Epson!

This has probably been the #1 dream of filmmakers everywhere ever since 1895. (that and cheap film stock)

But something tells me the big boys won't let this go as smoothly as it could.

Though I still think that the number one concern filmmakers should have, from Jim Cameron to an independent Iranian filmmaker should be fighting piracy.

We're not far from the day when most people will have a fast enough internet connection to be able to download an HD movie in 5 seconds.

[Chris Clogg]

Originally Posted by Daniel Valle

Though I still think that the number one concern filmmakers should have, from Jim Cameron to an independent Iranian filmmaker should be fighting piracy.

We're not far from the day when most people will have a fast enough internet connection to be able to download an HD movie in 5 seconds.

The "app-store" or itunes method (except for movies) would be perfect to counter this. E.g. offer reliable/great quality (video and audio) and a fast download for couple bucks (10 or more probably).

But then they have to protect the files or use a special player for it or something... and maybe this system already exists... but I haven't tried anything.

[Michael Stanmore]

It's so weird to me that so many people were/are up in arms about the whole DRM thing... what do they expect us to do? Just give these products which are brimming with intellectual property to them with no safeguard whatsoever?

I think DRM is a pretty hassle free way to distribute digital media to the end user while at least trying to do something about piracy... Obviously if one is so motivated, there are plenty of ways to remove DRM from a file... but it's still better than just letting people download things with no way of even trying to prevent them from giving it out all over town (or world).

And yet people complain like this is some sort of personal attack on their liberty or something... madness.

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

Originally Posted by Michael Stanmore

It's so weird to me that so many people were/are up in arms about the whole DRM thing... what do they expect us to do? Just give these products which are brimming with intellectual property to them with no safeguard whatsoever?

I think DRM is a pretty hassle free way to distribute digital media to the end user while at least trying to do something about piracy... Obviously if one is so motivated, there are plenty of ways to remove DRM from a file... but it's still better than just letting people download things with no way of even trying to prevent them from giving it out all over town (or world).

And yet people complain like this is some sort of personal attack on their liberty or something... madness.

I disagree, I am a content creator AND an end user and i loathe drm, I buy everything legit, and still they force me to watch warnings and more warnings and commercials,and the damned dvds/blurays that you pick up in the usa don't work in Europe. For the demanding end user like me DRM is a lot of pain in the b... Remember I PAY, I am the costumer. I hate DRM and it never ever stopped any pirate ever, it just annoys your clients, period!

[Mathieu Ghekiere]

I have to agree with Eirik on some leven.

I'm make content too, and I also buy all my movies legit.

But I have to see 4 trailers that act like I am a thief while I just bought the damn product! Meanwhile, the 'thiefs' just rip the movie and don't bother with those trailers. So those trailers only reach the people who buy their stuf legit, and as been said: it's really a major annoyance to have 4 non-skippable trailers before you see a movie. If I look at a dvd from Warner Bros from years ago, it seems so much fun now: put the dvd in, go straight to the main menu.

The trailers aren't the same as DRM though, and I agree that it's a very difficult line to maintain. But as iTunes has proven: you have to make it EASY for your clients. It has to be easier then the pirate-way, and in the movie studios seem to make it harder for people to legit download then to pirate.
Like the 'digital' copys they give with some dvd's and blu-rays now. Great idea, if I want The Dark Knight on my iPhone, I don't have to rip it anymore. But oh wait? You can only access it trough Windows Media Player and you only could use the code one time, and ... ...

Since iTunes went DRM-free I bought 500 tracks on it (versus not one before and before I had difficulties to imagine myself pay for a download) and no, I didn't gave the songs to someone else.