Sensors...

[Roberto Lequeux]

BOOM!!!
Insanity! And the artist benefits.

... way more than film actually.

You had me at "more than any other digital camera." <3

[Blair S. Paulsen]

LOVE the business model, proud to serve the Rebellion.

Not complaining, but a quick note about the ever greater signal to noise ratio in the new sensors (most people call it native ISO but I consider that misleading in a digital sensor):

I feel certain that you have discussed this internally, and there is likely no way to accomplish it, but IF there was a way to adjust the sensitivity of the sensor to avoid high ND demands in high light levels it sure would be great.

Totally agree that the sensor is the key to any digital camera but IMO what's in front of the sensor, lens/filters is at least 50% of the equation.

So I'm standing there with my Dragonized Epic and the Leica-C I sold my house to buy, the sun is blazing and I'm reaching in my filter kit for enough ND to get the stop I want and praying the filtration doesn't compromise the whole enterprise.

If your response is "we make the best sensor, cleverest compression, and most affordable cinema quality lenses in the industry; let somebody else make better filters" I can accept that - you are certainly doing the heavy lifting. That said, as a fellow shooter, if you could find a way to make ND filtration a relic of the past, it would not only make the user experience better it would also ensure that the IQ you work so hard to attain isn't fumbled a yard (or matte box) before the goal line.

Sorry if this seems like I'm looking a gift horse in the mouth, but along with all the significant benefits of faster sensors comes a challenge in cleanly cutting light levels across a wide spectrum of wavelengths.

Cheers - #19

[Justin O'Neill]

Jim, will Hdrx still be implemented? Do you feel it may not be necessary?

Keep in mind that high dynamic range is not the only use for HDRx. With Dragon you can shoot your motion at 1/48 shutter with an 800 ISO and set the X track to like 1/500 shutter and then pull your stills up to ISO 2,000 and they should be clean and sharp.

[Meryem Ersoz]

...pondering the same thing as Blair. though I'd rather have to filter the shit out of the thing and have all the other goodies, than not.

more ND!

the Noctilux .095 50mm costs $10,995 at B&H.

Dragon costs $6,000. No restrictions on focal length.

Bing!

Noctilux on a Dragon sounds almost scary....

all those big, slow lenses Angie 25-250mm 3.9 will get new life at windowed 4K+ - could get interesting!

[Cid J Salcido Uyarra]

got some amazing footage yesterday

any time I pull my camera out I can't help but to get excited.

Then I go home and see the footage and I'm very happy.

Then I check reduser and I'm hearing the buzz about Dragon and now I'm hysterical.

How the hell do you do it?

Very exciting for Epic owners, next couple months look promising.

[Blair S. Paulsen]

I love Justin's note about how HDRx could be the magic bullet for creating motion content with pleasing amounts of motion blur (limiting perceived judder) and at the same time having a thin shutter X track for pulling sharp stills. I've actually done that with the MX but had to fight signal to noise issues when the X-track needed more than a couple stops of push.

One more reason to love the Dragon.

Cheers - #19

[Alvise Tedesco]

I'll gladly upgrade sensor on my Scarlet.
But hope you don't want me to upgrade my SSD..

[Roberto Lequeux]

And pleasing motion blur + easier VFX tracking. At 6k 50fps!

Or one 6k stream at 100fps. IMAX slow-mo for 6k.

Hehe, "6k for 6k".

[Antonio Ribeiro]

I'm all for upgrades and as someone already said here, I am also equally happy with my current Scarlet's sensor. What I really hope this sensor brings are bigger frame rates at higher resolutions. The crop factor is the only draw back of the Scarlet when trying to shoot slow-mo. If this can be overcome and the camera can "grow up" (albeit not as much as the all powerful Epic), that would be amazing... Count me in if that is the case!

Antonio

The biggest budget features have been shot on EPIC MX. There is certainly nothing wrong with the current EPIC. But everything moves forward. The Dragon is a monumental leap in technology. We are just happy to make this available to our customers as an upgrade "if you want".

Jim

[Brian Merlen]

Hey, can anyone tell us if there will be a scarlet dragon AND an epic dragon, or is is all the same model aka the dragon... because i am trying to figure out how much possible savings i might need since i just bought a scarlet and would like to upgrade quickly, have a low serial, etc...thanks!!!