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    Quote Originally Posted by BRANDON JAMESON View Post
    "I bought the same canvas and oil paints as Picasso used , but all the art I make looks like beginner crap.
    When I go to museums, his work looks SO much better, why is that?"
    Incredibly well said Brandon, its not the tools its the operator is something I hear on the boards quite often. It's not a simple effect you throw on your footage; each scene, even each take could have its own look. If you really want your images to look like "film" define what that is to you (deep blacks, high contrast, flat, washed out, etc) and spend a couple days infront of a color corrected monitor trying to re-create it with a scene you think deserves that look. Or hire a professional colorist, watch over their shoulder, talk with them about what you are trying to create, and watch what aspects of the image they work with to create that look. If they can't pull the look you want they'll tell you why and you can learn from that (i.e. not enough information in the highlights or too wide a range, etc.). re-light, re-shoot, re-try until you get your look. While the digital era has brought on a lot of cut and paste aspects to filming, there is still a reason that there is an entire industry dedicated to the craft of lighting, shooting, grading and editing movies with a "film look" :) Not trying to be rude with the last comment, just saying that as easy as Red and personal computers have made it to create professional looking moving images, there is a reason that there are professionals who's life is dedicated to the honing of their craft, and some things are not just an easy filter and quick export away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wil Klassen View Post
    there is a reason that there are professionals who's life is dedicated to the honing of their craft, and some things are not just an easy filter and quick export away.
    And let the choir say..AMEN!
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    Why don't you post a video of the elusive "film look" and then post a video you shot that you wish had the "film look"
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    Not that I know anything about film look, but try putting a master prime lens on the beast and then try shooting? maybe it'll fix your problem;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emir Aksay View Post
    Not that I know anything about film look, but try putting a master prime lens on the beast and then try shooting? maybe it'll fix your problem;)


    Or just a 60 year old Angie... Or whatever glass you have and shoot and light for what you have...


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    Geographic and socio economic differences make your amen comment as clueless as your original unhelpful comment

    This is not a site solely for professionals and maybe he is and shoots weddings, I say you get over yourself and add something useful
    Or kindly find another thread to crap on... Owner operators, some of them first time camera owners, who ReDx thrives on, relies on
    Forums like this for help - not to be insulted for your perceived lack of professionalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Whitcomb View Post
    Geographic and socio economic differences make your amen comment as clueless as your original unhelpful comment

    This is not a site solely for professionals and maybe he is and shoots weddings, I say you get over yourself and add something useful
    Or kindly find another thread to crap on... Owner operators, some of them first time camera owners, who ReDx thrives on, relies on
    Forums like this for help - not to be insulted for your perceived lack of professionalism
    Dunno if this was directed at me. And if it was... I get some of it...

    BUT
    To some extent... I stand by (the unfortunately) implied part of my comment, which is about understanding how photography and lenses work. There is tons of material out there that explains the effect on an exposure. And as that is pretty much physics, no plugin wherever can really fix that for you. Not anyone I have seen, at least.

    Un derstanding the relation between shutter, framerate, aperture, contrast, the length of the lense and the size of the field the object is exposed to, is NOT a secret sauce given to some few gifted. It is pretty straightforeward, but is often mystisised to the extent that many don't bother to look into that.

    Beyond that, it is kind of art and storytelling and personal preference.

    But until you have some kind of concept about what affects the image (physically) in what way... It is rather hard to get beyond the surface.

    Sorry if that was impertinent.
    BUT I think it is AS silly to say that Magic Bullet makes a filmlook, as it is to suggest to get some masters and shoot constantly at 1.3
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    Things too often start on gear and metadata questions, instead of checking out how the lighting and exposure actually was done...
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    Someone obviously took a crap in Tim's oatmeal this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunleik Groven View Post
    Things too often start on gear and metadata questions, instead of checking out how the lighting and exposure actually was done...
    I am surprised to see this kind of threads here at RedUser. I have seen this question popping so many times on DSLR forums with always the same two answers.
    - What is a filmic look? (yes, to some, a question is an answer)
    - Lighting your set properly.

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