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    Senior Member Rainer Fritz's Avatar
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    We had three days of shooting and there were a lot of new experience.
    @Mechanic: The Base Production Pack is out of tolerance. Sorry, but the shoulder pad has so much toloerance, that you can't fit the camera tight anywhere. There is between the shoulder pad and the baseplate about 1mm or more space. So we had to use the ARRI plate. That is very tight, but in case of handheld use, you have to use the ARRI shoulder mount, because the RED shoulder pad doesn't fit in to the ARRI adapter plate.
    @PL Mount: The new version of the PL mount is very nice to adjust the backfocus. thanks for this improvement. BUT: We took a collimator and a high precision measure optic from zeiss to see where is the truth. And we think the new OLPF is changing a little bit the backfocus. It is in tolerance. Adjusting the backfocus in the field would take too much time if you have a really production situations. So it is neccessary if you use different types of optics to mark your backfocus for each before you go into the field.

    Specially at the exterior shots the red-lcd didn't come up sometimes after booting. thats ok in beta, but if you have to hurry up on set and have to wait till the cam is again booted, or after pushing the right triangle button on the top of the lcd again and again thats not really fine.

    @Power Consumption: Guys, take a lot of batteries with you! Minimum 70W power consumption at least and a 140Wh battery is in 2 hours empty. If RED could do here an improvement that would be very nice. I know there is a big computer build in, but 70W is a lot. So don't go out without at least 4 or 5 batteries. The charger takes too long to recharge the batteries. One battery need about 5 to 6 hours to reload.

    @Noise, Blacks, Highlights: There can be seen a improvement. If you rate the cam at 320ISO take care about these three things. The first thing is you set the right light. If not, and you want blacks like blacks, then you have to play with a very grainy result. The cam makes very clean pictures with a lot of lattitude and color space with very nice blacks and good highlights if your light concept meet the requirements on digital signal processing. it was discussed a lot, and in my opinion it is the most important thing. check your highlights that they are not too high and check the noise in the blacks that it is ok. The work of the DIT on set is very important on that issue. He/she can check if the picture is ok. After shooting you can have troubles for sure... it is more difficult against filmstock to work with the light !

    @ Redalert vs. Redcine: The Output is quite different. Redcine is decoding the Red Raw Footage a lot different then Redalert. In Redcine the Magenta is lot more then in Redcine. The hole color space and gamma is different. Guys there have to be made an improvement. That is not acceptable. The look of Redalert is very nice but with Redcine you think you are looking to a different picture.

    @ Data Security on Set: That is a very important point. You need to have power backup for the hard drives. It is also discussed here in the forum... If you think on insurance on the material. Also tape based backup is a must. The copy speed on the mac book pro didn't go higher then 30MB/s between the backup drives, think this is limited by apple. It is ok, but could be faster, the drives will be able to do it with more speed. I mean not the backup from the red-drive or red-cf cards. The red-drive was delivering 28MB/s speed at copying.

    thats my first impressions.... have attached some stills.... more details and a clip is coming in the next days....

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    Rainer thanks for the report.

    Nice bar's situation pics.

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    Nice shots Rainer, thanks for posting.

    What type of lighting package did you use? Also what ASA did you use.

    The bar shot with the mirror is great and does not show any light reflection.

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    Yea these stills look damn good Rainer
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    daaammn goood.
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    What versions are you seeing a decode difference in between RA and RC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainer View Post
    The cam makes very clean pictures with a lot of lattitude and color space with very nice blacks and good highlights if your light concept meet the requirements on digital signal processing.
    Thanks alot for your report.

    Could you estimate the lattitude of your camera with a still acceptable noise in the low lights?

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    That is the best looking example of RED footage under low light, dark interior conditions, really cinematic and with a rich, textured feel. I don't see any noise in the blacks anywhere. Very nice indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudi Herbert View Post
    That is the best looking example of RED footage under low light, dark interior conditions, really cinematic and with a rich, textured feel. I don't see any noise in the blacks anywhere. Very nice indeed.
    What he said.

    Great job, thanks for posting. Details of lighting setup/footcandle measurements would be excellent if you have the time.
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    THANKS for sharing your first experience with red .nice work :detective2:
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