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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Kenny View Post
    Where I was sitting all three of the ASC cinematographers, which included Richard Crudo, ASC, Daryn Okada, ASC, and myself, Francis Kenny, ASC all thought the Epic looked the best.
    I'd heard this as well from someone who was there, that when projected, even in this test, the Epic is the winner.
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    Whatever camera F was, wow. Very organic and film-like, totally heads and shoulders above the rest. I'm putting my money on F being the Epic.
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    Am I the only one that found all the scenes lacking? Maybe it's the Vimeo 720p downsampling/compression but none of the scenes looked particularly good to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Porter View Post
    Whatever camera F was, wow. Very organic and film-like, totally heads and shoulders above the rest. I'm putting my money on F being the Epic.
    We can hope. That's what I picked as best, with H being up there with F.

    Come on, somebody spill the beans. Just please don't tell me F stands for iFone. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Idris View Post
    Am I the only one that found all the scenes lacking? Maybe it's the Vimeo 720p downsampling/compression but none of the scenes looked particularly good to me.
    Who am I to criticize Bruce Logan and all the other participants? But I found the scene ABSURD. It was composed and graded for the window in the b.g. Who in the world would ever approve a look like that? The talent was underexposed, so my eyes kept on getting drawn to the window. An utterly bizarre choice. And I know everyone involved would never actually light or design a scene like that.

    Maybe the oddest and most perplexing thing I've ever watched. With such undeniably gifted people involved, it almost felt like a parody. WTF??


    P.S. FWIW, I liked B, D and F the most. H the least (mostly b/c the color balance looked off in the direction of magenta).
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    Yes......WTF!

    It looks like a VERY poorly designed and lit TV Show set.
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    That scene was tailor made for hdrx however based on the output it doesn't look like it was used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Moretti View Post
    Who am I to criticize Bruce Logan and all the other participants? But I found the scene ABSURD. It was composed and graded for the window in the b.g. Who in the world would ever approve a look like that? The talent was underexposed, so my eyes kept on getting drawn to the window. An utterly bizarre choice. And I know everyone involved would never actually light or design a scene like that.

    Maybe the oddest and most perplexing thing I've ever watched. With such undeniably gifted people involved, it almost felt like a parody. WTF??
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    I have to agree that F looked the best. i kept looking at the Door outside, seeing which cameras had moire, which ones just crushed the highlights to crap, and in the case of the iphone, which one didn't change focus. :)

    Even though I love my Epic and Scarlet, I'm going to say F is probably the Alexa.

    It's weird though. At first I though B was good, looking at the color rendition of the woman by the door, but then after looking elsewhere, it looked like it couldn't handle the dynamic range.

    HDRx might have been applied with a slider, rather than a highlight key to actually use the x track. I've noticed the sliders really don't do much of anything with HDRx.

    I though C to be the worst looking one with regards to the house in the background, how it totally broke apart. Other forums think that is the Epic due to the hdrx ghosting when the guy walks in front of the window. I have seen that look, when a bad key is used in post.
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    i kept looking at the lady in the striped shirt, the door pattern outside, and the detail on the china divider, also the the corner on the right of the window to see if i could see the where the walls met. Some were just down right nasty. but all in all not a super terrible divide given the cost of cameras.

    I thought b and f were my faves with d coming in around third. still have no idea which is which and that in itself is saying something.
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    I thought b and f were my faves with d coming in around third. still have no idea which is which and that in itself is saying something.
    LOL @ D at 3
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