ADOBE PREMIERE 6 --- I HAVE NO WORDS ....

[Scott Crawley]

If that is what he was saying, then he and I are in agreement. It seemed as if he was taking issue with something I had posted, hence my confusion.

Clearly, what Mike is saying is that, with the cloud, the moment you stop paying your monthly subscription (for whatever reason), you have NO more access to any of the Adobe applications. Just your files. With the purchase of the software, you have the applications forever. Even if there are newer versions available, you're not dead in the water. You still have perfectly capable software that you can renew whenever you feel the need.

[Stivan Widick]

Can a single person use Creative Cloud apps on different computers?

[Todd Kopriva]

Stivan, yes.

[Steve Sherrick]

Can a single person use Creative Cloud apps on different computers?

Guys, have look at the FAQ link that I posted. It answers and addresses all of the questions you guys are asking.

[Stivan Widick]

That's awesome. I've already pre-ordered the Production Premium upgrade to CS6 for myself, but my girlfriend needs a license for the design and web tools to run on her desktop and laptop. It makes sense to go with the $30/month for what she needs.

Guys, have look at the FAQ link that I posted. It answers and addresses all of the questions you guys are asking.

Sorry, Steve. I'll look at that.

[Steve Sherrick]

I downloaded the Master Collection version for Mac.
Installed great on a fresh Lion shared with CS 5.5.
I couldnt test Premiere Pro since my RRC are sitting in different computers and I had no R3Ds handy at the time (short testing period).
I did however go for the one Im more interested in which is After Effects.
It seems that I already found some bugs in the workflow.
Tried to bring it up at CreativeCow, but they took my post down.
I will try and hammer PPro today on a RRC system.

I think the problem is that this software is not officially released in any capacity. Not to play internet cop here, but it probably shouldn't have been posted here. There's a danger for Adobe in that if there are bugs and what not, they have to defend something that shouldn't be in the public realm yet. That might explain why it got pulled, I don't know. I know we're all anxious to get rolling with it, but I think we should use caution. Just my .02

[Brandon J.F.]

Clearly, what Mike is saying is that, with the cloud, the moment you stop paying your monthly subscription (for whatever reason), you have NO more access to any of the Adobe applications. Just your files. With the purchase of the software, you have the applications forever. Even if there are newer versions available, you're not dead in the water. You still have perfectly capable software that you can renew whenever you feel the need.

I don't care about having old software forever. What is a copy of CS3 worth now? I wouldn't take a license for it for free. I want the latest and at $29.99 a month Adobe is giving it away.

I have been on the monthly subscription plan for Production Premium since last fall. Love it and have had 0 issues. Those of you concerned about losing access if you having a billing issue (e.g. credit card change or whatever) need not worry. One unsuccessful billing attempt does not mean instant deactivation and blocked access. Adobe gives you time to straighten billing issues out.

"Software as a service" is the future. One I totally embrace.

[Scott Crawley]

Offering the creative cloud for $30/mo this year is a clever way to leverage a $1200. software package so that it can compete with Apple's new pricing in addition to getting a new service off of the ground.

[Paul Russell]

Hey Paul. I've been testing CS6 exports under W7 and Mac. I'm purposefully not using a Red Rocket card, just to narrow down some factors. Can you tell me what kind of encode times you are looking at on your export?

hi Clay

Sorry for the late reply. I'm not really sure how useful a comparison would be, given that I'm running a 24 core W7 machine with a Red Rocket and two fast RAIDs (working and receiving RAID 1+0), and I never send out to AE. However, I did edit and render a 100 second piece today in Premiere CS6. Shot in 3K 48fps and rendered out to 2.35:1 HD 1920x816 24fps, using (on the nested complete video sequence) Neat Video, Sharpen, 3 way color corrector, luma curve, MB Looks, and Fast Color Corrector, with LOTS of speed ramps and a few subtitles and fancy ProDad or NewBlue dissolves on the titles. To render it out at 14Mbps H.264 took 26 minutes.

http://vimeo.com/41360068

For me, the workflow improvements have made a big difference to cutting times, especially hover view and single click bin functions.

And in answer to the rest of the thread, I'll probably go cloud. I always upgrade on day one, and cloud also includes Lightroom, so it makes good sense for me economically.

[Scott Crawley]

I don't care about having old software forever. What is a copy of CS3 worth now? I wouldn't take a license for it for free. I want the latest and at $29.99 a month Adobe is giving it away.

I don't blame you. If I was currently working in 5.5 or 6 I wouldn't be interested in CS3 either. It just so happens that I have skipped a couple computing platforms too, so I am still using CS3 and it still rocks. CS3 is worth the same to me now as is was the day I bought it.

Not being tied to a license contract that required me to continue paying for it enabled me to retain control of our operating budget and choose to allocate resources as I saw fit. It allowed my business to remain nimble. Instead of investing in software and computers every year we were able to invest in camera gear and other things in the years since CS3 was released.

Consider this possible scenario. CS7 is released in 2013 and you have access to it. Yay! But it requires new Mac Pro hardware to run it. Your revenues were lean in 2012 and you can't afford a new Mac Pro, or perhaps you want to upgrade to Dragon and can't afford Dragon, a new Mac and a new CS license. Your option is to continue using CS6 via subscription or buy a box version... But you can't afford the box either. Maybe things stay the same in 2013-14 for you. Now you have paid the full value of the new version of the boxed software that you could not afford to buy last year but you have to continue paying to use the 2012 version... And it is now 2014-15. You could easily find yourself upside down in your lease. (It is essentially a lease.) You can't afford to keep it, and you can't afford to get out of it.