Will the new BlackMagic Camera affect 4K sales.

[Scott Crawley]

Imagine if they had incorporated the Canon battery system, of which many people own tons of batteries that would have been an easy transfer of resources and saved a lot of people money.

I have to wonder if Canon would be willing to license that to a disruptive competitor.

[Bob Gundu]

You have to license a battery system???

I have to wonder if Canon would be willing to license that to a disruptive competitor.

[Steve Sherrick]

I have to wonder if Canon would be willing to license that to a disruptive competitor.

I'm not sure what the licensing entails but i do know that other companies have taken advantage of that system such as SmallHD. And there are several companies that make replacement batteries for that system.

Steve it seems Blackmagic are also working on a seperate handle for the camera with power and control features,
reports point to something that can be mounted on different rigs and configurations. Not sure if this is true but it
would make sense and is prob something they have borrowed from Red.

That would be interesting. The power and the audio are two areas I'm very curious to see in action. I'm also hoping for expanded lens mounting systems. This BM camera would be for very specific purposes, so won't affect how I use REDs that's for sure.

[Scott Crawley]

You have to license a battery system???

I presume that Canon controls the use somehow. No?

Did Red have to license the EOS mounting system?

[Thomas Koch]

Since, I was already in the market for Davinci Resolve (loving the lite version, but really want 4K output [yes, I am doing 4K output for features]) I think it's a no brainer for me to get. I'm sure there will be uses for it all over the place. i have a Scarlet and and Epic and find my Scarlet is the most desired one based solely on the price point.

When bidding on projects, people will go for limited frame rates and 4K, to save a couple hundred per day. of course, when you get that last minute request, "Let's shoot this one at 120fps." you have to tell them they opted to save a couple hundred dollars.

Anyway, it's too good a deal to pass up. Make a good third camera for any live podcasting I might be doing as well.

[Evin Grant]

The form factor of this camera is tragic, making a suitable handheld/EVF rig is going to take conisderable effort and metal.
Add a proper battery system ($1500), rails and cages ($1000) an EVF ($750) SSDs ($1000) and you're now getting pretty close to Scarlet territory. Honestly though what the BM threatens is the C300, which requires pretty much the same gak but is 5x the price for a highly compressed 8bit file.

[Steve Sherrick]

The form factor of this camera is tragic, making a suitable handheld/EVF rig is going to take conisderable effort and metal.
Add a proper battery system ($1500), rails and cages ($1000) an EVF ($750) SSDs ($1000) and you're now getting pretty close to Scarlet territory. Honestly though what the BM threatens is the C300, which requires pretty much the same gak but is 5x the price for a highly compressed 8bit file.

I agree, except that many people will be coming over from other cameras where they may already own the rails, EVF, support, etc. But the battery system and the SSDs are a big question mark. It looks like it uses standard SSDs and as far as I can tell they don't limit you to qualified media. Maybe that will change as things get closer.

If you are just looking to plop this thing on a tripod and start shooting, i.e. not configuring it for heavy duty run&gun or cinema use then the price point is still pretty good. Like any camera system, you have to factor in what you will be using it for and what accessories will be needed to accomplish it. For example, with Scarlet I think many people underestimated the cost of media, and cut it really close with their budgets as evidenced by many threads asking to lower the cost of the media.

If the images are solid, then for sure the DSLR market, including the C300 will be fighting this little guy, although the C300 does have some features this camera doesn't.

[Josh Snyder]

Yes it will impact Scarlet sales. No it will not impact EPIC sales. BlackMagic is the Scarlet that everyone was waiting for.

[Josh Snyder]

Add a proper battery system ($1500), rails and cages ($1000) an EVF ($750) SSDs ($1000) and you're now getting pretty close to Scarlet territory. Honestly though what the BM threatens is the C300, which requires pretty much the same gak but is 5x the price for a highly compressed 8bit file.

Add those things you mentiond to Scarlet and it's 20.000$. BlackMagic is way cheaper when both have equal accesories.

[Steve Sherrick]

I suppose you'll be able to power it with Bescor-like battery packs and such, although I would think the common way will be to go with a more standard anton-bauer or V-mount system with the appropriate cable adapters. If you already own some of that, then really it's the SSDs that's the big add-on. I haven't seen the camera in person yet, so I have no idea how good/bad the onboard display is. If going external monitoring looks like you'll need an SDI monitor/EVF or adapt for HDMI.