How Soon After NAB

[Bing Bailey]

will scarlet ship. I'm thinking about picking up an ex1 or a hvx200 until I can get the REDONE. but if scarlet was going to ship after NAB I might wait for that instead.

I wish it was shipping now. there are lots of things I'd like to shoot with it. I know scarlet will be mass produced. so the price is probably going to be a lot lower

any information on this would be great.....

[William Robinette]

I still think it's funny that even though no information has been released (well, practically nothing) that people are 100% sure this will be a HVX or EX killer.

Guys, what if is just a 4k lipstick cam?

[planet e]

the closest thing that i can think of to a "pocket professional" device is an HV20, and jim was loud and clear about the emphasis on the word "pocket"--so you'll have to be content with a pretty small form factor, which is why i think this will not be a great substitute for an EX-1 or an HVX.

just my opinion, but i don't think RED is going to try to compete in that space at all. they are not about competing in existing marketplaces...i think their model is to create new marketplaces. when they first discussed the 4K camera and the RAW workflow, there was a lot of noise about the lack of market for such a thing. which turned out to be wrong...

RED works on the "if we build it, they will come" model...a pro-active, rather than re-active model. they don't seem to compete in already-crowded spaces, and you can get amazing cameras at those price points, not as amazing as RED, but surely amazing options already exist. i'm sure i'm not the only one still wondering if one RED is a better investment for my company than 3 EX-1s....

but RED would be smart to let the big four duke it out for that space...the trickleware is coming faster and harder than ever, with the majors competing every six months against their own product line.

what would be the point of RED getting a hand in that game?

i believe that RED will go where the air is. so i think that whatever SCARLET is, it will be wholly unique. but what it WON'T be is a dumbed-down RED....

which may disappoint a lot of people. but will undoubtedly juice a lot of us as well. innovation, not imitation.

[Bing Bailey]

Well given jim's comments earlier about showing sony a thing or two at NAB. I think RED is looking to take away sony's other markets. why wouldn't they. I don't consider a 2k or 1080p dumbed down. RED will sell thousands of RED ONES, but they could sell 10's of thousands of scarlets.

it makes little sense to have scarlet just be a companion to RED ONE. lots of folks can't afford the 30k it takes to get a RED ONE with the parts you need and at least a Zoom Lens. so yes I see Jim and the Gang eating sonys lunch in other ways and why not. it would certainly allow them to monetize all the knowledge they've built up during development of the red one in a much greater way

[Carl Larsen]

Whatever scarlet is, I know it's going to be a professional masterpiece - HVX killer or not. However, I'd love to see what red would come up with to fit in that market space, as it is such a larger niche compared to the traditional definition of what is considered "cinema".

As if they don't have enough on their plate already, I'd love to encourage RED to take a stab at making the ultimate prosumer camera.

Keeping my fingers crossed that scarlet will somehow be both...

[Russ McDonald]

Well given jim's comments earlier about showing sony a thing or two at NAB. I think RED is looking to take away sony's other markets. why wouldn't they. I don't consider a 2k or 1080p dumbed down. RED will sell thousands of RED ONES, but they could sell 10's of thousands of scarlets.

it makes little sense to have scarlet just be a companion to RED ONE. lots of folks can't afford the 30k it takes to get a RED ONE with the parts you need and at least a Zoom Lens. so yes I see Jim and the Gang eating sonys lunch in other ways and why not. it would certainly allow them to monetize all the knowledge they've built up during development of the red one in a much greater way

Dark

I think you right here, I think we are going to see a 2k with variable frame rates, interchangeable lenses (I hope it will be EOS lenses or any cannon consumer lenses) Defiantly CF Card, with a foldout 2k LCD, but who knows.

If I were you I would rent gear until we all find out what happens at NAB.

[Shawn Nelson]

I still think it's funny that even though no information has been released (well, practically nothing) that people are 100% sure this will be a HVX or EX killer.

Guys, what if is just a 4k lipstick cam?

Ditto

[Bing Bailey]

shawn ,

do you have the inside track ? :) LOL Im not sure a lipstick cam would do anything to make sony look up

[Bing Bailey]

Shawn,

any new footage from you ? I was very impressed with the footage you put out already.

[Bing Bailey]

I still think it's funny that even though no information has been released (well, practically nothing) that people are 100% sure this will be a HVX or EX killer.

Guys, what if is just a 4k lipstick cam?

William are you considering getting the RED ONE ? I see your in Richmond.