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    OK, my wife is driving back so I can get this all to you hot off the floor...

    In alphabetical order...

    Angenieux:
    The real news here is the 28-340mm T3.2 Optimo, basically the 12:1 optimo with a magnification increase ofi 1.16x. The new formula is appereantly even sharper than the original. The good news is that this version is only a few grand more than the original 24-290. Of course you already know the original sells for $72K so there's the bad news.

    The new ENG motors for the short zooms look great and exactly what you would expect form them. (Video to come)



    Canon:
    I got to play a little bit with the 30-300 and I have to say the wight and breathing seemed very nice. A bit hard to tell sharpness and other metrics on the show floor but I'm encouraged. Focus ring did seem a bit stiff though that may be just because it's fresh out the box.

    I got to plsy with the 30-105 hands on, it seemed nice, good breathing control a bit of distortion but overall pretty good.
    The 15,5-47 was in a case. I'll be curious to see where these actually end up price wise.



    Fujinon:
    The new 19-90 Cabrio is impressive, again it's hard to see metrics but at least they had one on an Epic so I zoomed into 1:1 and it seemed to Perform well, at least in the center. This is no scientific test but it bodes well. Breathing was also better controlled than I had expected. Maybe not quite as well as the Optimos but pretty darn good. I was able to see a little bit of barrel distortion at the wide end and pincushion at the tele, but again probably only slightly more than the short Optimos.

    In addition to the 19-90 Fujinon also showed a cased prototype of an 85-300mm T2.9 which was only slightly longer and heavier.
    They should have completed prototypes at the end of the year



    Schneider:
    They showed there new T2-2.2 primes, hard to say much, they looked good, slightly larger than Ultras.
    Can't wait to give them a spin.



    Zeiss:
    Zeiss showed the new CP 70-200mm T2.8, built very nicely like the other CPs, didn't really have a way to do an eval but it looked very Zeis like for color. Breathong seemed well cntrolled at the tele, adequate a the wide.

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    So what's the future of the red primes? The web store shows less than 20 lenses in inventory. Is this the end? I'm really surprised nothing's been teased.
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    thank you very much for your generosity and sharing this and please thank our wife too.
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    Thanks Evin, did you see anything in the RPP category? I recently moved to RPP, but now I'm not sure what to do because RED has gone silent on their lenses. I'm looking for something like a real cinema lens (i.e. better then the cp2) but at the current RPP cost/quality point (which are a way less then panchro). I'm starting to worry that I should have gone with panchro rather then RPP, if RPP is a dead end (which btw ... doesn't make business sense to me).
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    The Schneiders caught my eye too: basically they seem to have fixed the ergonomic issues with the original Cine Xenars. Switched focus & iris rings around, and changed to internal focus so no more barreling forward. They listened.

    The bad news, they took the chance to jack the price up to ~$48k for a set of six; now well out of RPP territory.

    RED folks I spoke to were saying -nothing- about lenses, and saying it loud and clear...

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    If there were any Red lens announcements you'd have seen them here.
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    Evin,
    I agree with most of what you are saying. I was surprised at the breathing on the zeiss 70-200, it's slight but not what I would expect from a long zoom. The canon zooms also surprised me but in a good way. Very impressed with the 30-300. The cabrio, great concept,pretty good Lens for the applications that it is designed for. Angenieux, well , they're angenieux. Simply wonderful but I can't afford them. I'll check out the schneiders tomorrow.
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    Disappointed that we still don't have any new news about the RPAs.

    I guess the fact that the new 6K Dragon sensor is Super35 instead of 3:2 FF35 means they'll be on the side burner for quite a while longer.
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    Evin, how do you rate the Arri / Fujinon Aluras in this mix?

    Can the Red 18-85 swing with these guys?
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    The Re 18-85 is a great lens but heavy compared to the cabrio. The Aluras are good too but again in a different weight catagory.
    The ideal system for fast moving narrative TV and indie features is a combo of a 10:1 or 12:1 zoom and 2-3 lightweight handheld/steadicam zooms. All around the T3 range.
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