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    Hold on a sec.. before you stop giving them all your money, keep the wallet open a little bit to keep buying lenses. They make great glass and I want them to continue on doing so.. Nothing makes me happier than running around with the Canon 70-200mm on my Epic. :)
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    If the 1D-C was ~$7500 then RED should've been concerned (for Scarlet)... even regardless of what Dragon offered (because Dragon obviously won't be free.) Think about it: FF35 1080p or APS-H sized 4k recording in-camera on over-the-counter media that can be purchased anywhere for cheap. Plus, 4:2:2 mjpeg can be edited directly out of the camera in almost any NLE (not just premiere)... And the batteries are inexpensive and last hours (not 30mins). No fans in the camera, clean at stupidly high ISO, plus a full-on 18mp FF35 stills camera that can shoot a whopping 14fps continuous!!! With properly downscaled 1080p from FF35 or s35/APS-H crops at 120/60fps (or whatever it is). That's all awesome. OH, and it'll be available all over the place, without month-long waiting periods or having to ship your camera back and forth (which is also expensive.)

    ... And yet, it's $15,000... which is the same price as a shootable Scarlet-MX package. In other words, all of the 1D-C's benefits get nullified by the mere fact that it's too much to ask for a non-RAW camera unless you're a user that really doesn't want to deal with RAW. As for the C300 (and F3); in late 2011, no one should've even been considering 1080p for $15,000 (R1mx was only 17,500 and 4k RAW) unless they absolutely refused to deal with the additional steps/render time RAW entails... However, if that's the case, they really shouldn't be surprised/upset by these 4k options available 1/2 a year later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    Hold on a sec.. before you stop giving them all your money, keep the wallet open a little bit to keep buying lenses. They make great glass and I want them to continue on doing so.. Nothing makes me happier than running around with the Canon 70-200mm on my Epic. :)

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    Everyone gets to do whatever they want. But there are some facts to consider.

    IMHO a pro should shoot the best original he/she can afford to shoot. It never hurts.

    Shooting RAW (or compressed RAW) is infinitely better than shooting an RGB codec. For a million reasons.

    Upgrading a camera is cheaper than buying new cameras.

    Having the ability to use many lens options/brands is better than being stuck with one.

    A company that listens seems better than a company that dictates.

    Pretty easy stuff...

    Actually... this should be a Recon post.

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    I am a proud owner of an American made camera.
    I will not disgrace my camera with a Japanese lense.
    i am not a racist and I love Japanese people but I'm done with Japanese cameras.
    i won't even visit their booth in las Vegas. I dont need to realy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shapour Daneshmand View Post
    I am a proud owner of an American made camera.
    I will not disgrace my camera with a Japanese lense.
    i am not a racist and I love Japanese people but I'm done with Japanese cameras.
    i won't even visit their booth in las Vegas. I dont need to realy.
    I bet your beloved "American made Camera" has plenty of japanese parts :-) What a disgrace if true!
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    Just because it's a big company standard doesn't make it advantageous for the user. In fact, quite the opposite. RED challenges the big companies and their "standard" practices. They will either make things better and cheaper for the user or fall.

    I would love to see Canon competing with RED, I love 3 options for under $50k, smaller form factor then the epic, less weight, more DR and a noise free camera able to shoot in the dark. With RED, I am getting more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Jones View Post
    The philosophy of Canon to not announce the C500 at the same time as the C300 is annoying but standard practice for almost all big companies.
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    The only thing Japanese in an EPIC or Scarlet is some electronics "glue".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Bernard View Post
    I bet your beloved "American made Camera" has plenty of japanese parts :-) What a disgrace if true!
    "The camera is arguably one of the most important of all inventions… it is the single tool that has the ability to stop time, record history, generate art, tell stories, and communicate messages that transcend language like nothing else ever conceived."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    The only thing Japanese in an EPIC or Scarlet is some electronics "glue".

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    A direct result of the tsunami, if my memory serves me.


    But maybe that event made you make some radical production choices, that pays off today.

    I cannot see why it would be disgracefull to have Japanese parts in the cam, btw...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarred Land View Post
    Hold on a sec.. before you stop giving them all your money, keep the wallet open a little bit to keep buying lenses. They make great glass and I want them to continue on doing so.. Nothing makes me happier than running around with the Canon 70-200mm on my Epic. :)



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