Stage 3, 3.5 and beyond...

[Andy Roberts]

I still don't fully understand why EPIC-X with Ti PL Mount is $38,000 and Scarlet with Ti PL Mount is $13,200. It's cool, just don't understand what makes it cost 3 times less.

Michael Z... I think the issues are cost, value and market differentiation. An Epic costs more to make I am sure (as Kevin notes). But one reason Red has the right to charge more for Epic is because it is worth that much for the features it has compared to the Scarlet. The Epic is cheaper by far than any cinema camera out there (though the Epic's specs far surpass them), so the market easily bears it's price tag. There is a market that the Epic is geared toward and a market the Scarlet is geared toward. If the price is too close, then one product will cannibalize the other and there becomes no reason to have two products. A $25,000 gap is about right between the two products even if the cost to produce them is only a $5K-$10K gap because the Epic is simply worth it. If anything, the Epic is under priced. That's my two cents.

[vincent kardasik]

Looks like there are some people complaining about theirs stage3 and 3,5.
I bought my Red One too late to have access to this stage but if you're unhappy with your case, let me know, I will be glad to let you my Red One and get your Epic-X! Even if I still like my Red One, I won't spit on a trade-in for a brand new Epic-X...

[Andi Loor]

I still don't fully understand why EPIC-X with Ti PL Mount is $38,000 and Scarlet with Ti PL Mount is $13,200. It's cool, just don't understand what makes it cost 3 times less.

You can buy a computer for a few hundred dollars but if you want a "blood stock" workstation like a HP z800 you might have pay 10 000 dollar. All dependent of how "refined" the components are inside.
Andi

[Gavin Greenwalt]

I still don't fully understand why EPIC-X with Ti PL Mount is $38,000 and Scarlet with Ti PL Mount is $13,200. It's cool, just don't understand what makes it cost 3 times less.

So... you are asking why a camera at 1/3rd the cost has 1/10th the capabilities?

[Paul Ellington]

I still don't fully understand why EPIC-X with Ti PL Mount is $38,000 and Scarlet with Ti PL Mount is $13,200. It's cool, just don't understand what makes it cost 3 times less.

I own two Scarlets and love them, they are different way less options... I shot something at 6 stops over and was able to get a good image, not the purtiest with a bright sun, but not Epics fault in Palm Beach Florida and the Director didn't let me backlight my subjects...

*** I also own an Epic.

[Steve Murray]

A question about the kink in the order date vs. delivery date when it comes to the Scarlet Ti Canon Mount cameras. I ordered early on Nov. 3rd but had to wait and watch about 1000 people who ordered AFTER me get their cameras before me during the 2 months it took for the Canon Ti mounts to catch up.

So even though I did everything in my power to order early and take delivery ASAP... later when it comes time to upgrade the sensor I will be 1000 back in the line --AGAIN -- through not fault of my own. Unless you do not make an exception to the old delivery date as your place in line policy.

I'm requesting an adjustment for the Scarlet Ti Mount cameras to be in line for future upgrades by when the date ordered -- instead of the delivery date -- since we had no control over the delayed delivery caused by the back ordered Ti mounts.

Thanks,

[Martin Stevens]

So... you are asking why a camera at 1/3rd the cost has 1/10th the capabilities?

RIGHT ON!

[James Drake]

oh snap!