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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Grossien View Post
    The fact that the RED ONE is still on sale, and the fact that they deeply care about it, plus it being between scarlet and epic at least in terms of frame rates, could be a hint that it will be in there along with the upgrades...
    Cool let me know if you find a quote either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Grossien View Post
    The fact that the RED ONE is still on sale, and the fact that they deeply care about it, plus it being between scarlet and epic at least in terms of frame rates, could be a hint that it will be in there along with the upgrades...
    Jim said, at the SCARLET launch event, that the RED ONE was reaching End-Of-Life (per the reports of those who were at the event) and he has stated on this forum that they will continue to support RED ONE owners and users with software updates and other things as needed after they stop selling the camera and that the RED ONE design could not handle the camera tech that they are working on and would not be upgraded with future sensor designs and internals. Look at the previous threads about this subject if you want the exact quotes and whatnot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L. Langer View Post
    Jim said, at the SCARLET launch event, that the RED ONE was reaching End-Of-Life (per the reports of those who were at the event) and he has stated on this forum that they will continue to support RED ONE owners and users with software updates and other things as needed after they stop selling the camera and that the RED ONE design could not handle the camera tech that they are working on and would not be upgraded with future sensor designs and internals. Look at the previous threads about this subject if you want the exact quotes and whatnot.
    They even posted that.. Still looking for it ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Grossien View Post
    They even posted that.. Still looking for it ;)
    "Obsolescence Obsolete... we said it. We believe it. We are delivering it. The RED ONE was advertised as such. But we realized that it could not live up to the ongoing advancements we had envisioned, even though we offered the MX sensor upgrade which is well beyond what any company had ever done for their customers. So we developed EPIC. And we gave our RED ONE customers a way to upgrade to EPIC without any pain. Stage 2 and Stage 3 are our solutions to Obsolescence Obsolete. Choose one if you are a RED ONE owner. They are your choices. Don't think past these choices... anything beyond these are not fair to us." - Jim Jannard on REDUSER @ 03-22-2011, 02:23 AM

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    Yeah. That's the one! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by giacomo-belletti View Post
    is the RED ONE ever gonna get another sensor upgrade ? is Dragon going to be compatible ?
    Hey Giacomo!

    I played fourth in "Resevoir" whats good brotha!

    It's feeling like they are going to phase out any upgrades for the R1, I wouldn't expect to see another sensor upgrade for that cam, but as with many things on these boards...that's just speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    The Dragon is the shit...
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    We believe you... And our EPIC M8 has gotten a nice new RED ARMOR... All that is left now besides the tidy-biddies upgrades is... RED DRAGON... ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Summers View Post
    Cool let me know if you find a quote either way.
    Sorry Scott, so I think my first hunch was correct... still the RED ONE is a stronger camera than the scarlet in quite a few ways. So it's awesome as it is, and I think it still will be for quite some time, living side by side with the other two brothers.

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    Perhaps Scarlet with the Dragon upgrade will match R1 frame rates at least. That would be a nice replacement for the R1.
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    I'm guessing that Dragon will make the Scarlet "more Epic" and make the Epic "more better". Potential for higher resolution, better dynamic range, as well as a full frame sensor with lower noise as well. Sensor tech has come a long way. I'm sure Red is investigating everything. Those are just possibilities.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the upgrade lets Scarlet X shoot 5k at speed. Epic certainly has the bandwidth to shoot much higher resolution at speed.
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