Timeframe For 120FPS?

[Zack McTee]

Is there any timeframe for when 120fps will be enabled on the scarlet?

[Robert L. Mickles]

Is there any timeframe for when 120fps will be enabled on the scarlet?

I don't know. It may never come out. It seems kinda useless, with how much it will be cropped. From the sound of it it will probably end up looking really bad.

[Jeffrey Loewe]

After shooting some stuff at 2K, I wouldn't go below it even for the additional frame rates. Even shooting 2K won't happen to often for me. I'll be shooting 3K minimum I think. I would love to see a little love to the FPS in high resolutions rather than a useless one (1K). I know they say the camera is maxed out as is. But I'd honestly rather see 4K hit 48-60fps whether thats something they can do w/o the Dragon upgrade I have no idea. I don't have enough of an understanding of the internals, although I'm trying to learn them. With that said though 48fps at 3K works for me right now to get some slower footage. My results at 2K have been less than desireable for projects and work I'd want to use it for.

I feel if the right project came along and needed those frame rates I'd rent an Epic. But seeing JVC (regardless of what it is) releasing a 4K cam with 60fps is promising. I don't think i'd buy it, but it's promising to see that happening. I'd hope to see the Scarlet-X enabled with that at some point even through a dragon upgrade. It's clear 4K is the future. And i'm not complaining I love my Scarlet, I'm just saying even if I had to pay for it I'd love to get that additional extra fps at 4K.

[Robert L. Mickles]

You can pay for it and get those extra FPS at 4K, its called the Epic, lol. But yea shooting 2K for 120fps on the RED ONE gave some cool, but noisy and super zoomed in results. I assume 1K would be terrible.

[Jeffrey Loewe]

You can pay for it and get those extra FPS at 4K, its called the Epic, lol. But yea shooting 2K for 120fps on the RED ONE gave some cool, but noisy and super zoomed in results. I assume 1K would be terrible.

Robert, I understand that. I'm not in that price bracket. I'm talking an upgrade in the Scarlet more in the sense of a board or sensor upgrade. I wouldn't need 300 fps.

[Jared VanLeuven]

I shot 120fps on my RED ONE, no noise at all, beautiful results.

[Carmine Scalzi]

I think the Dragon upgrade will be a fps surprise (in the 3-4k realm), sure not 120, but I'd say extra fps (maybe 50fps in 4k?) and extra hdrX for sure - and better light sensitive.
But now, gentlemen, I think We (ehm...I better say YOU... I'm still waiting for the near shipping..) can play with a revolutionary piece of gear, and we can only thank Jim & C for this... We can live the present with this professional tool (and of course when we'd need some extra fps right now there's always an Epic for rent...) and we've got no alibi to reach our artistic goals... the limit is the sky (in a few years...:))

[greg filipkowski]

My gopro HD 2 does 120fps 848x480 :)

[Steve Sherrick]

I think when it comes to needing hi-speed, the R1 still edges out the Scarlet and is a better purchase if you spend a lot of time doing that kind of work. Obviously Epic is the best in the line if you have the budget, and beyond that you have Phantom and that class of digital hi-speed. I have found the key with doing hi-speed on R1 is to use very sharp glass (Master Primes, Ultras, maybe even Nikon) and shoot 3K unless you have to get more frames and then it's 2K. Give it lots of light, really push the sensor as far you can go while retaining detail in highlights, and then any noise that does creep in, process it with Neat Video or other NR software. Results can be really great. But if you use soft glass which works well in 4K, don't be surprised by results being really soft in 2K. If I get some time, I will try to run some test shots to show you guys what I mean.

[Robert L. Mickles]

I shot 120fps on my RED ONE, no noise at all, beautiful results.

Have you been using the MX? Cause the camera I've been using is the M, maybe thats the difference? Or maybe there was something wrong with that particular camera. The images looked pretty good, but I still was never really 100% happy with it when I looked at the finished product of 2K.

Robert, I understand that. I'm not in that price bracket. I'm talking an upgrade in the Scarlet more in the sense of a board or sensor upgrade. I wouldn't need 300 fps.

I hear you. I agree, I think the Dragon is going to unlock a lot of great new features for us Scarlet users (as well as Epic users, of course). I remember Jim or Jarred saying that the Dragon upgrade will be more expensive for Scarlet than Epic, because they'll have to upgrade more of the internal circuitry as well. Who knows what the Dragon has in store, its defiantly something to look forward to.