ANAMORPHIC MODE...WHEN WILL IT BE ENABLED

[Tom Gray]

But - anamorphic lenses is extremely rare - and awfully expensive! Why would anyone need this function on the Scarlet? With more anamorphic cameras, the lenses would be even more expensive - due to higher demand, maybe 10-15 times the price of a Scarlet - just for a set of 40 year olds...

If I invest in anamorphic lenses, it will give my Epic a lot of extra value.

Think ARRI ALEXA STUDIO versus ARRI ALEXA.

Some features should not be enabled on the cheap camera. It's bad for business. Red has already been extremely generous selling a strip down Epic for peanuts...

Don't worry it's already stripped down and stripped. You see the real strip is the 6:1 compression and not 3:1. They told me that you can't see the difference. My thought then is, then why not have the Epic at 6:1 as well and save some money on a less expensive chip set. They could have at least given the Scarlet one professional setup in 24fps. The ARRI 2C was a ghetto camera but in 24fps the registration was fantastic; they didn't make it worse because they were trying to sell more BL1's... don't get myself. I know it sounds like apples and oranges but that was about all those cameras could do back in the day so it was a very big deal, besides being blimped!
So what I guess I'm saying is this... having 3:1 compression in 24fps would not have spoiled any barrel of Epic apples. Digital cameras have a short life cycle, lets say compared to an ARRI 2C, that are still working from just after WW2. Well, while I'm on this kick I should say that having an entry level camera it should at least give you 3:1 @24 fps @4k as advertised, being 99 44/100's % of all movies are 24 fps! SLOMO's so over used because of boring scripts, trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear!
How do they get away with selling a camera that does 4k when in fact it does not??? The end result is what you add up not, not the journey!
just a little venting

[Maik Müller Menendez]

6:1 is fine, it really is. 3:1 will make files bigger and maybe give VFX-artists more data to play with, but under normal circumstances 6:1 is really good enough. I mostly use 8:1. Shooting 3:1 could be interesting for stills, i havn't done much testing here, but it's possible too shoot 5k stills @ 3:1 with Scarlet. You still get 8fps then (and 12fps with 5:1).

BTW, 6:1 is already a bit better than what a RED One can do (REDCODE 42 is somewhere between 7:1 and 8:1) and lots of features have been shot with on RED ONEs. Speaking of feature films, from what you can read here in the forum, lots of them use ratios between 5:1 and 8:1. So calling 6:1 not professional and Scarlet not being able to shoot 4k is just not right.

[fredrikolsson]

Im doing lens tests tomorrow with the Scarlet, latest firmware, with Lomo anamorphic lenses.
Ryan - you just used the 4k setting and squeezed it in post? Did you have any kind of problems with the material? Pixel ratios or weirdness with flairs, rendering?
Im shooting a short and would have loved to do it anamorphic so the tests will decide if it will be worth it.

[Ryan Hamblin]

Fredrikolsson... I am still in the boat of not finding a suitable workflow that does not require alot of rendering. Hopefully in the near future we will get it in firmware. Hate to be the bearer of bad news.

[Marc-André Gray]

Companies that spend a lot of time worrying about cannibalizing their products usually don't have to worry for very long since someone will go ahead and do it for them. Usually their competition. I can imagine the meeting at Apple... "Who's going to buy an iPod if you put all the same functions into an iPhone". It's generally a pretty myopic business decision.

[Ev Shipard]

I'm the first person to scream for an ana mode on Scarlet however it doesn't require a whole lot of rendering for results. I'm working on a piece in Premiere Pro cs6 set up as a RED default changed to 1828x1556 with a 2x pixel aspect ratio. On import of video I adjust the aspect ratio and scale footage to the frame height. The video consists of quadHD and 3kHD- just make sure you are framing for a 4:3 overlay guide. The main problem with this is that we lose so much screen real estate which becomes cropped- ana mode would fix this and by some calculations would allow for 5k- I'd just love 4K anamorphic mode for starters. This all runs realtime 1/4 res preview on an iMac with multiple layers/grain etc- faster than my main quadro xeon mac pro tower.

Some stills- some cropped to 2.35 and some straight 2x...

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[Cédric Laty]

I notice that no one from RED is taking part of this thread ...
I have to say (and i'm so sad to ay it) that i regret my choice of SCARLET. I hope i'll change my mind in a near future.
I need to rent my camera to pay the lease. I was making lot more money with my MX ! Why i sold it ??!!

I love the Scarlet but it really need ANA and 120 fps (or 100 at least)

cheers

[Manu BERNARD]

I am more than agree with you :/

[Cédric Laty]

I hope we'll be full of happiness with the Dragon Upgrade.
Problem is we don't know nothing about.

Do i have to start saving to pay it ?
Will it be quick ? (remember MX upgrade...)
again i love RED, so i don't want to be forced to change system because of my clients...

[Kip Kubin]

Just a post to say I'd love it if you'd engage a ANA mode on the Scarlett...5 or 4K.

My lenses await the modification