RedCine -> CS3, testing results

[Mike McCarthy]

Thanks McCarthyTech,

How much are you pushing the clock on your 8800 GTX? I just installed a8600 GTX in the machine that I am using for testing having come from all ATI graphics cards in the past.

I definitely want 1080 4:4:4 color space, so I think I should hold off on my testing until a control panel is made available.

Does anyone know if it is possible to force the QT defaults through a command line level interface?

Thanks again,

Kevin

I am not doing anything crazy with it, 675Mhz instead of 600. I bought it that way, and am not even really thrilled about it since it has a tendency to overheat. The drivers run the fan really slow by default. If I manually increase it, it runs fine. The fact that it is overclocked is not increasing my numbers as much as the fact that it is just a really powerful card.

[Joe Carney]

Hi Antoine,

Other David here. No, that is not correct. When you use our free decoder, CineForm plays just like every other third party codec in Premiere. Premiere will mark any codec as red if it does have an "edit mode", which you get with Prospect. Red doesn't mean it won't play, only that the codec is not matching the default codec for the project.

David, thanks for posting, I need to clear up a minor misunderstanding.
I'm looking at Magic Bullet Editor and Colorista for AE on Windows, do they work with both Neo and Prospect?

Joe.

[David Newman]

David, thanks for posting, I need to clear up a minor misunderstanding.
I'm looking at Magic Bullet Editor and Colorista for AE on Windows, do they work with both Neo and Prospect?

Joe.

Yes. Although the Red Giant products aren't accelerated by Prospect's playback engine.

[Kevin Halverson]

I am not doing anything crazy with it, 675Mhz instead of 600. I bought it that way, and am not even really thrilled about it since it has a tendency to overheat. The drivers run the fan really slow by default. If I manually increase it, it runs fine. The fact that it is overclocked is not increasing my numbers as much as the fact that it is just a really powerful card.

Thanks for the clarification on the over clock. Your correct, this amount of overclock should only yield around 12% additional throughput. I almost went the 8800 GTX route, but the two slot configuration didn't work well in the case I wanted to test in, so I went 8600 GTX instead. Do you happen to know if there is that much difference between these two video cards?

Thanks again,

Kevin

[number6]

Thanks for the clarification on the over clock. Your correct, this amount of overclock should only yield around 12% additional throughput. I almost went the 8800 GTX route, but the two slot configuration didn't work well in the case I wanted to test in, so I went 8600 GTX instead. Do you happen to know if there is that much difference between these two video cards?

Thanks again,

Kevin

Great graptic card overclocking article on THG at this link. http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/..._five_minutes/

[Troy Smith]

I'm wondering if anyone can help me out with this question, I'm trying to decide between fcp or pp with cineform, I prefer to stay with pp, but I see people saying that fcp is the best approach for speed etc, my question is, the qt ref files that are used in fcp that make it so no rendering out of redcine is required like with cineform, aren't those qt ref files lower quality then fully rendered out clips from redcine, I read something from a red team member that there maybe aliasing etc, but that will change in the future, if that's the case wouldnt' one have to go the whole rendering route anyway for the online edit? If that's the case I'd stick to pp and cineform and just render out from redcine to start with, or am I missing something here?
Any info on this appreciated.

Thanks
Stricko

[John Tissavary]

For the last step there's no avoiding rendering, but to just do an on-line or offline edit on the Mac side takes less time & less steps - this works for PP or FCP on the mac side.

The slowdown on PC is that there is no QT redcode component for XP/Vista yet, so one must render to a different format.

One way to speed things up a bit would be to render low res proxies out of Redcine for offlining, then create a 'pull list' of clips you want to render out at high rez for the final 'online' version. Better than that, generate an EDL out of PP, and do a proper conform in Scratch.


cheers,

john t.

[Mike McCarthy]

Thanks for the clarification on the over clock. Your correct, this amount of overclock should only yield around 12% additional throughput. I almost went the 8800 GTX route, but the two slot configuration didn't work well in the case I wanted to test in, so I went 8600 GTX instead. Do you happen to know if there is that much difference between these two video cards?

Thanks again,

Kevin

I haven't seen much info on the 8600GTX, but my 8800GTX if 4x faster than the 8600GTS in many tasks at 1080 resolution. I would estimate my card to be at least twice as powerful as any 8600 varient. The single slot 8800GT is the way to go if you can find one.