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    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    EPIC-S is dependent on a few things...

    1. EPIC-X finished and shipping most of the orders.

    2. The rework of the camera given less electronics and features.

    3. Cost saving advantages from a mature assembly process and efficiency of production techniques.

    We expect EPIC-S to be in production in Fall of this year. That presupposes no more supply chain surprises.

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    Forgive the stupid question but Epic-S is basically a scarlet with interchangeable lens options. And the Scarlet will be released as a fixed lens camera.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Chema View Post
    Forgive the stupid question but Epic-S is basically a scarlet with interchangeable lens options. And the Scarlet will be released as a fixed lens camera.
    Nope, it was from the scarlet line yes, but it actually shoots in 5k at 60fps (i think 60)and the scarlet fixed only shoots 3k but at 120fps :) but it will not be upgradable to the RED DRAGON sensor when it is released for epic-x and epic-m. I think I remember Jannard stating at one point it is an epic-X but with about half the bandwidth. But that statement is months old so i dont know exactly
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Brundige View Post
    In fact, I don't recall that the Epic chassis is bound for a FF version. It might need a whole new platform. (idle speculation - anybody know better?)
    http://8112studios.com/blog/uploaded...st2-746674.jpg (Long since outdated but still the last news we have gotten regarding the FF plans.)
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  4. #134 Idle speculation while we wait (patiently) 
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    Thanks for the link, Gavin; that refreshes my memory. That was the dream, but the Epic-S suggests that the Scarlet chassis will be more limited than originally planned. And what will be the pixel processing capacity of Epic? It's hard to imagine that the current Epic chassis will support a 617 sensor, probably not the 645. Clearly a FF sensor can fit in the Epic body, but the computing power to process that bandwidth seems to be the limiting factor being discovered. More pixels, more cooling needed, bigger body. Clearly FF is in the plans, but will it be the Epic body we now see, or the next bigger better brain, called ??????
     

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    sigh, 14 pages...

    SCARLET = 2/3" 3K sensor with Graeme and Co tasty Wavelet Encryption
    FIXED and INTERCHANGABLE (mini primes and more)

    EPIC = S35 Sensors and Monstro and More.
    S-X - M all depend on kick ass RED FEATURES:

    FALL ends the day before the WInter Equinox Dec 20, 2011

    My translation of JJ kindness in sharing Red's plan's (despite swearing to not telegraph again due to trolls and haters)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    EPIC-S is dependent on a few things...
    TIME

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    1. EPIC-X finished and shipping most of the orders.
    X Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    2. The rework of the camera given less electronics and features.
    X Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    3. Cost saving advantages from a mature assembly process and efficiency of production techniques.
    X Months

    Quote Originally Posted by Jannard View Post
    We expect EPIC-S to be in production in Fall of this year. That presupposes no more supply chain surprises.
    The latter is out of RED's hands and (imho) will continue to be a challenge for several more quarters, at least. Japan will be battling those Reactors for YEARS
    Jim[/QUOTE]

    The Moral = Whenever EPIC- X ships is when you can start guessing when EPIC - S will ship and there are going to be thousands of RED ONE loyalists INSANE WITH GLEE...
    I wish all 8000 or whatever would all meet in one place for a big kick ass party!

    How big is RED STUDIOS again?
    Kind regards,

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    I'm going build up a Canon FF lens collection for use with the EPIC-S.

    At first my idea is to have the 16-35 2.8, 28-70 2.8 and the 50mm 1.4 lenses.

    If in the future the industry does move forward to FF sensors I'll be ready.

    But I'd rather not, since I'm not the biggest fan of razor thin DOF and I'm a huge fan of shooting with smaller, more intimate lighting.
     

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    Has anyone compared Canon L to other lenses? Ever notice a pink tint? Im going with RPPs for my Epic
     

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    If the new electronic RED lenses are in the same price bracket as the current ones, I might get a few someday.

    Today I just don't have the dough for that.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Church View Post
    If the new electronic RED lenses are in the same price bracket as the current ones, I might get a few someday.

    Today I just don't have the dough for that.
    You may want to take the lens conversation over to the lens forum - all this discussed at length there.
     

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    Personally I haven't noticed a pink tint to Canon lenses. That said, the sensor on DSLRs can be adjust to compensate for colour shifts and what not (can Epic?)... Regardless, though, doesn't RAW laughs in the face of such tints? I'm not saying Canon glass is as good as even entry-level cineglass (or RPP/RPZs); I'm just saying for $1000 (used) you can get FF coverage on a fairly solid and sharp 24-70mm f2.8 lense that weighs ~2lbs. And with the auto-focusing/racking Canon mount, it just seems that much sweeter for those trying to maximize their $$ with an Epic-S.
     

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