Laser Projection

[Steve Johnson]

Ivan

No specs on the projector. It was just announced that they where working on 4K laser projector. That's it.

Speculation - priceless

For everything else, there's MasterCard! :-)

[jake blackstone]

I am with you Jeff on the hoping it will be good enough to use for color work. I think if you look at RED from acquisition using RED One, Epic, Scarlet, post production - third parties, through to distribution with REDRay then these are all professional tools. Jim said that RED are a professional company and it would make total sense for their projector to be color accurate. If e REDRay does DCP (which they are saying it will) then it makes sense to have color accurately on the projector. It will be a great addition to view dailies, editing with, sound mixing with, color correction and viewing of final delivery.

RedRay and DCP are two completely different things. The only common aspect of both being an image delivery method.

[Steve Johnson]

RedRay and DCP are two completely different things. The only common aspect of both being an image delivery method.

Jake

I think what I meant was that if REDRay plays DCP files.

Steve

[Ivan Kovax]

Ivan

No specs on the projector. It was just announced that they where working on 4K laser projector. That's it.

Speculation - priceless

For everything else, there's MasterCard! :-)

I'd do with even some priceless speculation right now :)

[Steve Johnson]

Ivan

Well for what it's worth, I'll still go for the fact that Jim has stated that RED is a professional company, so I'll bet that anything shot on RED (either a R1, Epic or Scarlet, will look great through this projector. I would guess that it might be high end home user / low end professional. But I think Red knows that if they release something that is affordable, yet professional enough to Color grade on, then added that we can watch all our 5K footage / final films through a projector - they will sell a bucket load. Hell, I'd even put one in the edit bay, one in the sound mixing room and another..... Oh I'd take 4/5 straight away.

But hey....its mindless speculation :-)

[Ivan Kovax]

Steve,

For what its worth I tend to agree! But you know... what Red is doing is very interesting. I am sure Jim has his sights set on big things. Sure it started with One camera. But now we are getting Red Studios, Red Ranch, Red Ray (both home and pro) home laser projector... and lastly, Red just produced their first real short movie...

There are interesting things in the works in Orange County, I'll tell you that much :)

Ivan

[Axel Mertes]

Jake

I think what I meant was that if REDRay plays DCP files.

Steve

I think the entire concept behind RED RAY stands or falls with the fact if it plays DCPs or not.
Its a fact that theaters will not invest in two concurrent player systems. DCP is the defacto standart right now and so both the studios and the theaters will use DCP in the first place.
So the the only way to spread a new format to the theaters is by making a player that plays DCPs and the new format (RED RAY or whatever it will be called in the end) and does all this at an unbeatable price level.
Having a matching projector along makes just sense, but for theaters thats a totally different beast than a home system.

Anyhow, if RED RAY PRO does not play DCPs it'll be a niche product. If it plays DCPs, it will take the theaters by storm, for sure.

Axel

[Larry Kelly]

I was under the impression that Red Ray Pro not only plays DCP but also allows one to author DCP using the output to utilize something like the 4K Laser projector to proof the work. This I am very excited about as it will allow small independents to author their films in DCP and play them on the primary projectors in local theatres instead of having to premier their films on the screen door laden digitals typically available for local releases. Making this available at our local film Co-op will be able to make this service available to our members at an affordable price. We also have an Epic coming, can't wait!

[Steve Johnson]

I think the entire concept behind RED RAY stands or falls with the fact if it plays DCPs or not.
Its a fact that theaters will not invest in two concurrent player systems. DCP is the defacto standart right now and so both the studios and the theaters will use DCP in the first place.
So the the only way to spread a new format to the theaters is by making a player that plays DCPs and the new format (RED RAY or whatever it will be called in the end) and does all this at an unbeatable price level.
Having a matching projector along makes just sense, but for theaters thats a totally different beast than a home system.

Anyhow, if RED RAY PRO does not play DCPs it'll be a niche product. If it plays DCPs, it will take the theaters by storm, for sure.

Alex,

I would agree and I am sure it will play DCP. It is interesting to read on the Red website the features for the RedRay:

"REDRAY™, the first choice for bringing RED into every home. Representing the ultimate in home theater playback and offering RGB HD, 2K and 4K playback to projector or panel through its consumer friendly HDMI connectors, REDRAY™ supports CF card and SSD media, USB-2, Firewire 800 and e-SATA. With 7.1 channel 24-bit audio and on-screen menu overlay, REDRAY™ will be the standard for digital cinema delivery in every environment."

That last statement would seem to indicate that this is just the start - "will be the standard for digital cinema delivery in every environment" - so I will go to say that I predict that RedRay will do DCP - at least for the Pro version.

As for the laser projection, I think if Red are going to these lengths to produce a 4K Laser Projector, then it will be the first version for "home cinema" - with maybe a cross over into post houses as a cost effective alternative to a Barco / Christie. My biggest hope is that it allows for color accurate grading so we can use it in a Red post workflow. Of course being able to view your hourlies on a Red 4K projector would be awesome, and viewing your final output on it would be great two. If it allows for the color accurate grading, then I would buy at least 4 - one for the editing room, grading room, sound mixing room and viewing theatre.

Guess we'll find out sometime in the future...

[Stephen Gentle]

That last statement would seem to indicate that this is just the start - "will be the standard for digital cinema delivery in every environment" - so I will go to say that I predict that RedRay will do DCP - at least for the Pro version.

I think the idea of RED RAY is to replace DCP.