EPIC HDR...

[Christian Edwards]

Question : Will all of this hdr functionality exist within the brain or will it require modulation ?

[CK Olsen]

While there will always be "more"... EPIC is a game changer.

You will likely not ever need more. You will get it because we will make it. But EPIC is the ONE that changed everything. I have seen a lot. I own over 1000 cameras. EPIC is the one that will change history. It is the one that covers everything. Size, price,performance. If I died and went (somewhere)... I will be content. EPIC will get to market.

Jim

While I admit the latest Epic features leave me drooling, I'm running rather low on saliva, and could really use some release date info to help replenish my supply.
Maybe if I say Pretty Pretty Please??

[Roberto Lequeux]

Wellington Harbour, around 4.30 in the afternoon, I think ,taken a little earlier in the year judging all by the foreground shadow. Sun setting to the SW.
Only 2-3 kilometers from Mr Jackson's office\studios.

Thank you for the confirmation Olsen. This, coupled with Jim saying he wants to show off HDR motion in proper fashion, and with Soderbergh once again being the first to shoot a feature with the new generation, can only mean that a new Crossing the Line is a sure 100% lock.

Based on the shadows from the rocks I also thought it was at least a few hours from mid-day. I can't wait to see what noon along the Equator will look like, but it is all kind of mute, because judging by that insane histogram on the frame there is pleeeeenty of room left to fill.

Question : Will all of this hdr functionality exist within the brain or will it require modulation ?

That seems to be a lock as well. All the framerate talk is really about the ASIC's power, as far as I can tell. Which means it is all in-brain processing. The only module you might add is the 3rd party overcklocker-cooling module which might let you unleash an additional 10% FPS. ;)

[Brian Petrie]

Thank you for the confirmation Olsen. This, coupled with Jim saying he wants to show off HDR motion in proper fashion, and with Soderbergh once again being the first to shoot a feature with the new generation, can only mean that a new Crossing the Line is a sure 100% lock.

Yep, thanks Olsen and if any one has any doubts check out this link:
Looks very similar...

[throb]

Accessing HDRx™™™ streams will be available in the SDK.

Will the SDK allow for float output versus the current 16 bit int output?
That's a big limitation for us VFX people.

Thanks
Robert Nederhorst

[Lee Fingersh]

How well it will compare in still mode overall to a new DSLR I am not quite sure you may be right. However, for highspeed subjects like you are talking about couldn't the Epic be very useful by shooting motion then just extracting stills(which in Epic I believe is gong to be simplified). It is like shooting 120fps raw burst mode haha. Obviously, other things are taken in to affect but you get what I am talking about just my thoughts anyways.

Not really. Viewfinder lag means the subject may never be in the frame, and poor autofocus performance (tracking) means any frames that do have the subject are likely to be out of focus. A high burst rate doesn't help much. In fact, most of the images I was talking about in my first post were taken in single-shot mode, but the subjects were properly framed and in-focus. 120fps of out-of-focus subjects or empty frames doesn't do anyone a lot of good.

I agree with the poster that said they don't really care since you can get something like a 7D for a pretty modest price and size that will do this job extremely well (shoot stills of high-speed subjects). The only reason I posted what I did was that Jim stated/implied that an EPIC could do pretty much everything. That might well be true for him, and even for most people, but I'm claiming there's still a few areas of shooting in which even a modest dSLR would out-perform the EPIC by a substantial margin. In this case, I'm claiming those areas are high-speed subjects where viewfinder lag will cause difficulty in finding the subject in the viewfinder and keeping it there, and subjects that are moving quickly through the depth-of-field where predictive phase-detection autofocus is invaluable and not available on any RED camera.

Like I said, this looks like quite an interesting system for many other shooting situations, especially those for which it was really designed - cinema/motion/video.

[Brian Petrie]

Yeah makes sense Lee, I was thinking about manual focus where it'd be comparable. Ha sometimes I forget that Epic and true cinema camera will have AF abilities. I think where Epic will really shine is in the fashion/advertisement world where shoots are very expensive and talents time is very costly/valuable so even though it's not MF its positives will outweigh the fact. Not to mention, the Epic's price will be comparable to other cameras used in that field. As you and others have mentioned for many other applications though a DSLR may make more sense.

[Deanan]

Will the SDK allow for float output versus the current 16 bit int output?
That's a big limitation for us VFX people.

Thanks
Robert Nederhorst

Yes and it'll be the same as what's going out of the EXR output in RCX now.

[throb]

Yes and it'll be the same as what's going out of the EXR output in RCX now.

Great! I will grab the new RCX and try it on older footage.
full float (16 bit float is fine) out of the sdk will be excellent.

rob

[Rob Ruffo]

Tricks aside the best way to eliminate 5D problems is to shoot on a RED ONE MX!

Exactly - no tricks required :-) You can just focus on cinematography instead of convoluted "work-arounds" that don't really work