Right, I imagine its like the t2i/550d vs 7d, the 7D has 2 processors and can take stills at 8 fps. My T2i is 3.6 still fps. Epic would be a mega horsepower machine to do the frame rates, raw, 5k, that they are talking about.
edit: you guys beat me to it!
I also agree that Scarlet is going to compete with epic now or later. even before Scarlet is released, people will skip epic to wait for it, competing. BUT, those poor unfortunate redone owners who ALSO own epic ( ;-P ) will be just fine. In the same way the MX RED ONE is now the bees knees, Epic will be vastly preferred over ( my someday in hand ) Scarlet. Its silly to think Epic users will really suffer because of scarlet.
I know Jim has said many times that frame rates cost money. I suspect that Red is hoping that they can do a good job of educating the customer on that fact. I bet this is a big topic of discussion at Red HQ--how to differentiate the product lines if they share the same chip.
Right on man, the cost of FPS is huge. And whether or not the general market knows this, the professional one does for sure. Whether FILM or DIGITAL is an exponential cost growth. And production growth (with lights, etc). Case and point is the Phantom system.
I don't think that is going to even be an issue for most people because the epic is not an option. If you have the money get em all or whatever you want, if money is an issue then it's between s35 and 2/3". Rental houses and studios/production companies will buy the majority of the epics and cover their cost of development (most likely), as well as the current red one users. I don't think they are going to have their own cameras competing with each other, they cover vastly different markets, all of which I believe will have a high demand for one or many of these cameras. I feel that the customers are going to be learning about these things much faster than most realize, considering these aren't handycam's they are real production equipment and for the most part the people working with them will be students amateurs and professionals, all should be able to understand what they are really paying for.
When you get to major series production budgets, camera cost per se is not much of an issue. They didn't use DSLR's on House because they were cheap, the camera happened to fit the show's production style and the small form factor was a plus for the tight sets.Well, yes and no. The bigger RED One and Epic guys are going to get hit by Scarlet no matter what. It's just a matter of whether it happens now or later. After seeing the 5D Mark II episode of "House" last night, I think the bigger worry is that more and more people are going to go with Canon's DSLR solutions (and surely more after Photokina) simply for the price and availability at the moment. So, if it's just slow motion they're going after then the Scarlet is going to fit the bill for most as the B-cam for effects, at least until the S35 model comes out.
We don't all necessarily want to shoot 35mm sized sensors. There are many production applications where 2/3" will be the first choice and picking a DSLR sized 2/3" camera that is an uncompromised motion production camera with exceptional features over consumer video from a still camera with multiple compromises will be a no brainer.
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