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    This Epic X camera is going to be a serious gamer-changer for my film. Very happy to see things moving rapidly now.

    Ok, I think I am going to go do some meditation and breathing exercises right now in an attempt to be patient and calm while waiting for Epic X...
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    I'm a dumbass and forgot my password ... also on hold :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanneJansson View Post
    I'm a dumbass and forgot my password ... also on hold :/
    At least you know its not a race to reserve the cameras since no matter when you reserve it they are still going to deliver via delivery date of your RED ONE.
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    225 frames per second at 2K.....

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    The winds of change are blowing strong...now bring me my Scarlet S35!
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    Quote Originally Posted by christopher witzke View Post
    Just a reminder...

    This is for STAGE 2, where the person buys the EPIC X and keeps their RED ONE.

    STAGE 3 is where the owner trades in their RED ONE for the EPIC X.
    Yes.

    I think if anyone is "on the fence" - Stage 2 vs. Stage 3 - let me help you out -

    You LOOSE YOUR RED ONE - for a savings of only $9000. (You also have the 2.8" LCD - not the 5" LCD.)

    You won't get your EPIC until TATTOO program ends and ALL Stage 2 cameras ship.

    You have to ask yourself if you think your Stage 2 - Epic-X generate $9000 in revenue before Stage 2 cameras ship?

    Think about this example:

    REDUSER A: selects Stage 2 - keeps RED ONE MX - pays RED $18,250. ($19,500 less $1250 MX upgrade credit)

    He only manages to book four days rental on his EPIC-X package at a rate only slightly higher than a simple RED ONE MX camera package rents for - without lenses - before STAGE 3 Epics ships (rather "conservative" IMHO) He collects approx. $9,000 in rental revenue.

    He still owns, and rents his RED ONE MX camera. He can rent it as a package WITH his Epic-X - as a B-camera, or backup. He can rent it to his clients who want to rent his Epic - but his Epic is booked - so he doesn't lose his client to another rental house or RED ONE MX owner.

    He can always sell his RED ONE MX later for whatever the market is. Does anyone really think a RED ONE MX will sell for $9,000 or less ANYTIME soon?? Packages have been selling for FULL price lately.

    REDUSER B: selects Stage 3 - surrenders his RED ONE MX - pays RED $10,500 less $1,250 for his MX upgrade credit = $9,250

    While REDUSER B pays RED $9,000 LESS than REDUSER A - he only has his EPIC - only one camera he can use and rent.

    I absolutely understand how difficult cash flow can be - and if you can't afford Stage 2 - you can't afford Stage 2 - however - RED has been generous enough to give you "notice" and "options".

    Make sure you run the numbers before you sit out STAGE 2 for STAGE 3.

    IMHO - Stage 2 is a STEAL over Stage 3.
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    Ditto.

    Please, correct my written english.
    I'm still learning, and I need your help.
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    Mark, maybe you swap a couple of times the number of stages in your post?

    Please, correct my written english.
    I'm still learning, and I need your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark L. Pederson View Post
    Yes.

    I think if anyone is "on the fence" - Stage 2 vs. Stage 3 - let me help you out -

    You LOOSE YOUR RED ONE - for a savings of only $9000. (You also have the 2.8" LCD - not the 5" LCD.)

    You won't get your EPIC until TATTOO program ends and ALL Stage 2 cameras ship.

    You have to ask yourself if you think your Stage 2 - Epic-X generate $9000 in revenue before Stage 2 cameras ship?

    Think about this example:

    REDUSER A: selects Stage 2 - keeps RED ONE MX - pays RED $18,250. ($19,500 less $1250 MX upgrade credit)

    He only manages to book four days rental on his EPIC-X package at a rate only slightly higher than a simple RED ONE MX camera package rents for - without lenses - before STAGE 3 Epics ship. He collects approx. $9,000 in rental revenue.

    He still owns, and rents his RED ONE MX camera. He can rent it as a package WITH his Epic-X - as a B-camera, or backup. He can rent it to his clients who want to rent his Epic - but his Epic is booked - so he doesn't lose his client to another rental house or RED ONE MX owner.

    He can always sell his RED ONE MX later for whatever the market is. Does anyone really think a RED ONE MX will sell for $9,000 or less ANYTIME soon?? Packages have been selling for FULL price lately.

    REDUSER B: selects Stage 3 - surrenders his RED ONE MX - pays RED $10,500 less $1,250 for his MX upgrade credit = $9,250

    While REDUSER B pays RED $9,000 LESS than REDUSER A - he only has his EPIC - only one camera he can use and rent.

    I absolutely understand how difficult cash flow can be - and if you can't afford Stage 2 - you can't afford Stage 2 - however - RED has been generous enough to give you "notice" and "options".

    Make sure you run the numbers before you sit out STAGE 2 for STAGE 3.

    IMHO - Stage 2 is a STEAL over Stage 3.
    good points... guess I could scrape together the 19,500 buy selling off some of my RED ONE accessories.

    Or ( not the smartest thing to do but ) sell my executed RED ONE with all it's accessories for $20k and apply for the EPIC X stage 2.

    I can't really be without a RED camera though... so my the delivery timing would have to be tight.
    Last edited by Mark L. Pederson; 04-10-2010 at 12:04 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrado Silveri View Post
    Mark, maybe you swap a couple of times the number of stages in your post?
    yeah - I posted too quickly - referred to Stage 1 instead of 2, etc, - I think it's corrected now - re-reading.
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