I Have Some Serious Issues

[Matthew Lochman]

with Arri, sony, panasonic, etc., etc.
;-)
and because they have been jerking everybody around since day one, they deserve the gut punch they're gonna get. Finally some honesty. Let's see this trend clean up the whole industry...
Thank you everyone- I love you all.

[Andrew Benz]

You suckered me in... I agree, no more crippleware... we now have e-mail santa droppin' presents in our e-mail to upgrade our cameras on a constant basis... this is the worst the camera will be... Nice...

[kunal2]

they can pack up now :-}

[vidalsosa]

For the first time in the history of photography, the second hand value of a camera will be more than its original cost. With Red's proposd santa-in-the-mail firmware upgrade policy, all rules will be/have been broken

[Unwounded]

I wonder if any the major camera manufaturers will quickly adopt some of red business trademarks, like the honesty with the community and fostering user input ect...... or are they gonna ignore the elephant in the living room and expect business to go on as usual.

[Matthew Lochman]

I would think at first they will try and deny their problems, and than they will use their enormous stockpiles of cash to either
A. try and acquire Red (Jim, I don't know if you've said anything regarding this but it would be awesome if you NEVER LET THIS HAPPEN!!!)
B. try to compete (would make for a healthy industry)
C. Join forces and try to push Red out of the market from every front (bs lawsuits, veiled threats, etc.)
D. Pack up and open a really big Casino

[Craig W. Bickerstaff]

Come on guys just cause Red has clean Kool aid doesn't mean we have to go and spike it.
Sony, Panavision their slowly getting the picture.
With the f23 Sony attempted to design a camera that appealed to Cinematographers and they actually listened to some feed back on that thing.
The Genisis is an example of Panavision trying to cater to them as well.
The XD CAM EX is Sony saying P2 is a rip off.

They aren't gonna come around that fast though I mean lets face it these companies are run by Dinosaurs.

[Unwounded]

Yeah, well the big RED comet has hit....... and we all know what happened to the dinosaurs.......

[Brook Willard]

The companies also have larger, more lucrative market segments to worry about.

[Andrew Benz]

I vote #2, considering the reactions and responses that I have seen from industry reps... I still hear reps poo pooing the RED in favor of the HPX-500--now except for a couple of small reasons -- I think they are swimming in corp bs...

The big companies will not truely pay attention til RED produces the PPC AND a 2K shoulder mount eng/efp solution for the non techie average shooter and appropriate workflows for them... The cosumer/prosumer and eng/efp markets w/ workflows are their cash cows... The high end cinema not so much...

Jannard filled the void... Now the big question is... does he take the board. Red could do it... but in the end would the latter company still be light and responsive like the RED of today.

Just my navel lint opinion...