2k contains 4k after reconform in FCP7?

[Jeremy Newmark]

But the miracle is (at least for me) that I didn't have the R3Ds present for color - the harddisks containing them were not connected. Color was able to render 4k outputs from those 2k QT-wrapped REDCODE-files. And when I connected the disk with the R3Ds to Color, it wasn't even active during another export, just sitting there. The disk with the 2k QTs was working.

That's because the "2k QT-wrapped REDCODE-files" are actually the full 4k R3D files in a QT wrapper. The wrapper tells FCP to read them as 2k, since FCP doesn't do 4k, but all the 4k info is there. Which is why color is able to see all the info and render out 4k files. Take a look at the size of one of the QT wrapped files and look at it's corresponding original R3D file on your other drive and you will see that the file sizes are the same. When you log and transfer the R3D's into FCP, the full R3D files are simply being copied with a QT wrapper applied to them.

[M Edwards]

That's because the "2k QT-wrapped REDCODE-files" are actually the full 4k R3D files in a QT wrapper. The wrapper tells FCP to read them as 2k, since FCP doesn't do 4k, but all the 4k info is there. Which is why color is able to see all the info and render out 4k files. Take a look at the size of one of the QT wrapped files and look at it's corresponding original R3D file on your other drive and you will see that the file sizes are the same. When you log and transfer the R3D's into FCP, the full R3D files are simply being copied with a QT wrapper applied to them.

So instead of conforming to the h (or 2k) proxy you could conform to the smallest proxy and still output a 2k (or 4k) file from Color?

And Patrick, yes Epesses is beautiful. Not nearly as cloudy and gloomy as Geneva. We used to rent an apartment from one of the vintners there -- Fonjallaz. http://www.fonjallaz.info/pf/Bienvenue.html

[Jeremy Newmark]

So instead of conforming to the h (or 2k) proxy you could conform to the smallest proxy and still output a 2k (or 4k) file from Color?

Yes, for example you can transcode your R3D's to your editing codec of choice, but keeping the names the same of course. Do your offline edit, send out an xml to clipfinder, conform to the "p" reference files and then send the conformed timeline to color. You will then have full access to the original R3D's and be able to output 4k, 2k, 1080, 720 etc. files. You just have to adjust your Color settings at that point to your preferred output resolution and codec.

[M Edwards]

Fabulous. You guys are awesome.

[Niki Drozdowski]

Jeremy, thank you so much for clearing this issue up for me! Now I can rest assured and continue the workflow. Well, one problem solved, only 999 more to go.. ;)

If anybody is interested, that's the movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYzvQDSitAs

Thanks again and Happy Holidays to all of you!

[Darren Orange]

Niki,

Where did you shoot most of this? Like the military locations.

[Niki Drozdowski]

Darren,

It's a cold war Nike base (interceptor missiles) located in the Eifel region in Germany. It was part of a massive defense line against potential Russian nuclear missiles and was run by US and Belgian forces.

The rest we shot also in the Eifel region, including the medieval castle and the (hollow) interior of a 300 ft. dam.