Another hint...

[Michael Moreno]

Public Enemies was not shot on RED. What are you talking about? Oh, I get it. All digital is the same. Right?

Ask them what District 9 was shot on...

Jim

I new Public enemies wasnt Red as soon as I saw the preview, It looked bad, really bad. Red is beautiful, I worked for someone's short today and coudnt believe how filmic it looked, I colored it to look like Munich and everyone on set was blown away at what glorious old Red looked like ; )

And even before Red's beauty reigned, what about Ben buttons or Zodiac, both shot digitally (not Red) and both beautiful looking films.

Film is to be respected, But Red has finally made digital cinema affordable and incredibly beautiful.

[JosephArthur]

I hope someone from the Smithsonian is keeping an eye on things. Be cool for a couple of early Reds to end up in the American History museum.

Funny cause I use REDs on the California State Indian Museum. I have two on order specifically for a VR or 3d walkthrough for a museum (Erik Espera wanted to so something in 3d or stereoscopic - got the rig, now waiting on the RED cameras).

[georgelyoung]

I was totally disappointed with the look of Public Enemies (despite the fact I thought it was once of the most awful films I've seen in years!). But that being said, I'm pretty sure that was the same camera used on Benjamin Button, and maybe even Zodiac, so perhaps it simply takes a genius like Fincher to get a good look out of the Sony...
When I saw D-9 though, I saw if projected digitally, but was 100% certain it had been shot on film. Was absolutely blown away when I was doing some research and noticed it was RED. Incredible.
If I manage to get one of the jobs I've applied for, I'm grabbing myself a 2/3" Scarlet asap, and am gonna shoot my Western!
GY

[Stevewalker1966]

Hi Jim
I read the post about the tax breaks incentive in Australia.
Same goes for the Netherlands for 2009/2010.
We can write back the purchase price in 2 years for this year & next year only.
So it would be great if I could place my order & pay for epic/scarlet already this year.

Good luck & I'm looking forward to the 30th.

Steve Walker NSC

www.stevewalker.nl

[Ben Holmes]

Behold - the internet in action, as another thread careers out of control into another entirely pointless film v. video discussion - oh wait, Steve got it back on track...

The signal to noise on this forum is still so high. It would be nice if, even just on recon, people could be dissuaded from hijacking...

[Tim Hole]

Well technically was still off topic but hell of a lot closer than Public Enemies...

:)

[Luis Melgar]

Say that RedONE is just Video, because ther're digital is, for me, like to say than a cell phone and Canon 1D (or a Nikon D3) are just CMOS photographs...

It's crazy man! I could say you than film is as analogical as a VHS tape!

For me, 1D and D3 are REAL Digital Photo cameras, then, RED is a REAL Digital Cinema Camera, and REDCODE is a REAL Digital Cinema Footage.

[Milan Spasic]

Mark, if you are waiting for a comedy shot on RED look at The Informant. From the trailer it looks visually as bad as Public Enemies. I suppose they wanted for the highlights to be blown out for whatever reason, but it is horrifying to look at. I guess you'd be getting into an argument that is less about the camera and more about the crew.

Absolutely agree. I went to see the Informant expecting to see a brightly lit, vibrant picture... and was quite disappointed. Some scenes were really doing disservice to the "shot on Red" label. But it's less about the tool than what you do with t.

[Milan Nikolic]

I am interested in keeping my R1 and to purchase some of the Scarlet or Epic cameras. As such R1 owner I am glad that our specific need is recognized and we shall not be punished for our, should I put it, overloyalty for R1 - i.e. as Jim said, RED will give us some other reword for our early confidence and support. I am looking forward to hear what is it expecting RED to not dissappoint us because RED never did it so far.

Milan Nikolic
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[Bill Anderson]

I didn't like the look of P Enemies either, but the look was based
on a well informed stylistic approach and not due to misunderstanding
technology. If Mann wanted the "film look", he would get the film look- bang on.
If you really wanted to, you could make just about any camera look like P E.