Conform from ProRes to R3D

[David Jahns]

Hi, this is pretty much exactly what I'm doing. I offline everything to ProRes 422 720p using Clipfinder/Redline.

To conform, export the XML from FCP and use the Conform Feature of Clipfinder (Edit/Run Conform on FCP XML File), then reimport resulting XML to FCP. Works like a charm.


Bye,
Christian

Thank you - sounds perfect!

[Simon Cox]

Not sure if anyone can help, but Color seems to be very sluggish when grading from the r3d files. We've done an offline in final cut using transcoded ProRes files, then gone through Clipfinder to conform to the proxies to go into Color for the grade. The ProRes files in the offline work fine in Color, but when trying to work off the r3d files it struggles. All the files are accessed over our RAID-5 Editshare. Im thinking it might be a system thing, but just wanted to see if anyone had this problem before or if its workflow related. Any help is appreciated.
Simon

10.5.6/3GB/2x2.66 Dual-Core/RadeonX1900

[M Most]

Not sure if anyone can help, but Color seems to be very sluggish when grading from the r3d files. We've done an offline in final cut using transcoded ProRes files, then gone through Clipfinder to conform to the proxies to go into Color for the grade. The ProRes files in the offline work fine in Color, but when trying to work off the r3d files it struggles. All the files are accessed over our RAID-5 Editshare. Im thinking it might be a system thing, but just wanted to see if anyone had this problem before or if its workflow related.

Do you have the Playback Proxy set to Quarter Resolution, and have Proxy Support enabled?

[Luca Immesi]

Not sure if anyone can help, but Color seems to be very sluggish when grading from the r3d files. We've done an offline in final cut using transcoded ProRes files, then gone through Clipfinder to conform to the proxies to go into Color for the grade. The ProRes files in the offline work fine in Color, but when trying to work off the r3d files it struggles. All the files are accessed over our RAID-5 Editshare. Im thinking it might be a system thing, but just wanted to see if anyone had this problem before or if its workflow related. Any help is appreciated.
Simon

10.5.6/3GB/2x2.66 Dual-Core/RadeonX1900

Did you fix the color bug with clipfinder?

[Simon Cox]

thanks both for the reply. Id already ran the project through clipfinder to fix the color bug, but was still getting the sluggish performance. however, enable proxy support in color was unchecked.. and turning it on seems to have sorted the problem out, so thank you m for that. Id read the manual about using proxies, which suggests its only for cineon/dpx files and not for quicktime media, which is maybe why id overlooked it. Can i assume to get better performance in color when grading from raw data to always have this checked..? Ive read through hours of workflows for red/fcp/color and this is the first time ive come across this you see. thanks for your help
si

[Cail Young]

Ive read through hours of workflows for red/fcp/color and this is the first time ive come across this you see. thanks for your help

The proxy setting is mentioned in the RED FCP whitepaper. It boils down to:

Yes, use 1/4 proxies for grading and playback (1/2 for playback may be acceptable also).

It does behave differently for R3D sources than for DPX sources - DPX grading requires you to generate the proxy files beforehand, whereas R3D sources are just subsampled as required.

[Simon Cox]

cheers cail.. ive just looked back through the whitepaper and seen in nice and clear. it has sorted the problem though, so thanks to everyone who helped.

[David Jahns]

In using Clipfinder's Conform XML, it gives you only one option for "Clip Directory".

If my footage is spread over 3 different drives from 3 different cameras, what are my options?

1) manually copy all the used RED footage from the 3 drives to a single source.

2) Create separate XMLs for A, B, C camera, run each through CF, then paste them back together in FCP, then send to Color?

(I'm using 55 shots in the cut, but they rolled really long takes, so copying the Raw footage will take quite a while.)

Any other options i'm not aware of?

[Hans-Georg Daun]

David,

The beta version of Clipfinder 2.2 (available from my web site) allows for multiple Clip Directories.

If, for some reason, you do not want to use the beta, you can conform against one clip directory first, conform the resulting XML against the second clip directory, and so on.

Cheers,
Hans

[David Jahns]

continued from the previous post...

Also, the cameras were all synced as multi-clips.

Even after collapsing them, it appears the XML file retains that information, and Clipfinder sees the file path, and tries to put all of the camera angles into one XML output file. In addition to not being able to specify the output directory to all cameras, when I import the new XML file into FCP, it loses the sequences, and give me a folder full of multi-clips. Yikes!