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  1. #1 Run & Gun with RED1 at 4K 
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    Run & Gun with RED1 at 4K

    My latest Run & Gun with RED1 at 4K test:

    Here it is an indoor/room test I did today with Rode NTG-3 connected to TRS 1/4-inch input to get the phantom power 48V out from M-Audio Micro Track II that is line out wired at REC mode to RED1.

    In that way you'll be able to record at the two devices simultaneously M-Audio Microtrack II and RED1 (at one channel).

    On this Run & Gun RED1 rig I will soon add VievFactor's Origo Record stop/start button and Doug Underdahl's Lightweight Rod Support for RED One Camera.

    Have a look at the pictures below where you can also find a link to the footage with a sound from the test.


    Allstar shoulder pad+handle bridge, Rode NTG-3 with Rode Dead Cat windshield, Avid/M-Audio MicroTrack II, Sennheiser HD 25-1 II headphones, Leica Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4 on RED1.


    Allstar shoulder pad+handle bridge, Rode NTG-3 with Rode Dead Cat windshield, Avid/M-Audio MicroTrack II, Sennheiser HD 25-1 II headphones, Leica Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4 on RED1.



    Allstar shoulder pad+handle bridge, Rode NTG-3 with Rode Dead Cat windshield, Avid/M-Audio MicroTrack II, Sennheiser HD 25-1 II headphones, Leica Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4 on RED1.


    Snapshot from the footage: Taken from YouTube's BBC Cutlure Show w/ Christopher Doyle talking about handheld use of his camera.

    1K footage with a sound from the test 42.8 MB>>>

    The sound comes from the small JBL loudspeakers that you can see at the footage.

    Outdoor test is coming soon.

    Stay tuned.
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    Very Nice !!

    Q1: why did you choose M audio MicroTrack II?

    I am asking this because I am looking for run&gun audio solutions to go with Scarlet. Completely agree on need to record audio separate to cam and the need for phantom power.

    Q2: How long does the Lithium Ion battery in the M-Audio last when supplying phantom to the NTG?
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    Addendum:
    my hesitation on M-Audio is because of these reviews
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...l.html#reviews
    would love to hear 1st hand about your experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Davis View Post
    Very Nice !!

    Q1: why did you choose M audio MicroTrack II?

    I am asking this because I am looking for run&gun audio solutions to go with Scarlet. Completely agree on need to record audio separate to cam and the need for phantom power.

    Q2: How long does the Lithium Ion battery in the M-Audio last when supplying phantom to the NTG?
    A1:
    - 1/4" TRS audio inputs with 48v phantom power because I still do have old RED1 audio board
    and the future of upgrade is uncertain according to void warranty issue with IMS mount installed on my R1.
    - Doesn't have built-in microphone that I would not need on RED1.
    - Excellent audio quality with external microphones.
    - Easy of use.
    - Cheaper than competitors for the same audio quality.

    A2: Internal battery works about 3 hours with phantom power on.
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    The microtrack one had two XLR ins on the thing that was sweet, bit upset those are gone from the II. I have the Microtrack I and use it for everything, really nice piece, I set it to 48/24 and that's the most I've needed for audio.

    Can't think of other solutions goin up to 96khz that small... then again was happy with it so didn't look further
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    I was initially planning to go with Marantz PMD660 (about $130 more) and was doubtful of M-Audio's sound quality. If you say its audio is good I will give this one a second look over.

    I am sure Scarlets audio board will be fine but I like this inline recorder solution as a backup.
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    Got another question. Have you had any issues with the Microtrack's (either I or II) audio drifting out of sync on long takes?

    And Marantz PDM660 if anyone knows.
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    Marantz PMD660 is too big to attach on RED1.

    I needed one that is light, easy of use, has professional audio quality, has with phantom power for my Rode NTG-3, without own mic, with line out to get in RED1.

    MicroTrack II has all that.

    More about

    Portable Digital Audio Recorder Comparison Chart

    where you get samples.
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    The latest update where you can see how it is to carry the rig.


    Camera: RED1, Lens: Canon FD 35-105mm f/3.5, Audio: Rode NTG3 mic, M-Audio MicroTrack II, Sennheiser HD 25-1 II headphones, Shoulder pad and top handle bridge: Allstar.


    Camera: RED1, Lens: Canon FD 35-105mm f/3.5, Audio: Rode NTG3 mic, M-Audio MicroTrack II, Sennheiser HD 25-1 II headphones, Shoulder pad and top handle bridge: Allstar.


    Camera: RED1, Lens: Canon FD 35-105mm f/3.5, Audio: Rode NTG3 mic, M-Audio MicroTrack II, Sennheiser HD 25-1 II headphones, Shoulder pad and top handle bridge: Allstar.


    "Like a cat on the shoulder*" concept>>

    Outdoor footage shot with this hand-held rig is coming soon.

    Stay tuned.
    "There is no point in having sharp images when you've fuzzy ideas."
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  10. #10 Grips.. 
    That looks like a great run and gun setup. The only thing that seems odd is the location of the grips... they are so high and so far back. Wouldn't you be more comfortable with them lower and further forward? What's your reason for the placement?
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